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1NT-X-Pass 5=3=3=2 with an ace
#2 Guest_Jlall_*
Posted 2007-November-05, 18:14
Would bid 2S immediately. Having passed showing values I imagine we are in a forcing pass. I would bid 2S now.
#3
Posted 2007-November-05, 18:19
No, pass would be non-forcing...we haven't promised values yet, we would have had no need to bid on a 4333 three-count. 2♠ over 2♣ does sound like a better hand than this, though.
#4 Guest_Jlall_*
Posted 2007-November-05, 22:22
MickyB, on Nov 5 2007, 07:19 PM, said:
No, pass would be non-forcing...we haven't promised values yet, we would have had no need to bid on a 4333 three-count. 2♠ over 2♣ does sound like a better hand than this, though.
ok, don't really like the system but you just need agreements. I would say it's tough to make good agreements if pass is unlimited; some people just play you are in a force through 2H after Xing a weak NT (an agreement I do not like).
#5
Posted 2007-November-06, 01:29
I would bid 2 Spade after the XX too. This shows wehre I live and makes it more difficult for them to find their fit.
Why should I pass? Do I believe, that my pd has a juice pen. double on their 5 card suit? They have 7 + cards in a suit, I have at least two. So 2 Spade is it.
Why should I pass? Do I believe, that my pd has a juice pen. double on their 5 card suit? They have 7 + cards in a suit, I have at least two. So 2 Spade is it.
Kind Regards
Roland
Sanity Check: Failure (Fluffy)
More system is not the answer...
Roland
Sanity Check: Failure (Fluffy)
More system is not the answer...
#8
Posted 2007-November-06, 16:37
2♠.
My methods are that a direct bid shows a weak hand with direction, when responder's action is forcing on the 1NT opener. This hand is ok for me.
Pass would not promise values, it could be a balanced 0-count.
After opener's escape, take-out doubles and in principle forcing passes to 2♥. This means that responder is allowed to pass out a worthless hand, but responder's pass in a sequence like
1NT - x - xx - p
2♣ - p - 2♦ - p!
is forcing.
My methods are that a direct bid shows a weak hand with direction, when responder's action is forcing on the 1NT opener. This hand is ok for me.
Pass would not promise values, it could be a balanced 0-count.
After opener's escape, take-out doubles and in principle forcing passes to 2♥. This means that responder is allowed to pass out a worthless hand, but responder's pass in a sequence like
1NT - x - xx - p
2♣ - p - 2♦ - p!
is forcing.
Michael Askgaard
#9
Posted 2007-November-06, 17:27
Jlall, on Nov 5 2007, 07:14 PM, said:
Would bid 2S immediately. Having passed showing values I imagine we are in a forcing pass. I would bid 2S now.
Huh, I thought the pass of the XX showing balanced-or-values was standard.
Shows what I know.
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Pass-(1NT)-X-(XX)
1NT is 12-14, dbl is penalties, XX shows a 5+card suit and asks partner to bid 2♣. Do you pass or bid 2♠, which would show a very weak hand? If you pass, and it continues 2♣-P-P back to you, do you pass, bid 2♠ or double for takeout?