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Poll: your call (35 member(s) have cast votes)

your call

  1. 3s (28 votes [80.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 80.00%

  2. 4d (3 votes [8.57%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.57%

  3. 4s (4 votes [11.43%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.43%

  4. 4nt (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. other (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   Apollo81 

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Posted 2007-November-04, 23:51

R/R IMPs

2♣-(p)-2♦*-(p)
2♠-(p)-?

*artificial, game forcing

♠Jxxx
♥Jxxx
♦K
♣Qxxx
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Posted 2007-November-05, 00:11

3♠ and 4♠ in the next round. After 3NT or 4♣ I won't cue 4♦. This way partner knows there is nice support and no controls. Any slam attemps would be base on his own keycards and voids.
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Posted 2007-November-05, 01:30

3S, don't like a splinter with stiff K.
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Posted 2007-November-05, 01:32

3♠ and I will cuebid 4♦, then it's up to partner.
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Posted 2007-November-05, 01:52

3♠, i won't splinter with stiff K and no outside control
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Posted 2007-November-05, 03:28

the easiest 3♠ ever...
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Posted 2007-November-05, 04:10

4♠ denies a control, right? 3♠, then. Never splinter with a sec king (except maybe if the suit has been bid by opps).
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Posted 2007-November-05, 08:51

I agree with all the 3♠ bidders. I don't see how the singleton ♦K is (effectievly) any different from Kx on this particular auction. As an aside, I also think a splinter here shows better than 2-3 HCP.
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Posted 2007-November-05, 08:55

3s

but I think 4s fast arrival is ok also. I assume 2D showed something(K+) here and we do not that much more.
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Posted 2007-November-05, 09:07

Free, on Nov 5 2007, 04:28 AM, said:

the easiest 3♠ ever...

Off course ! 4♠ is far too pessimistic with 4 card support and some hopefully useful stuff outside.

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Posted 2007-November-05, 11:43

3♠.

After 3NT, I'll cue 4♦.

After 4♥, then, from partner (Last Train), I'm bidding 5♣.
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Posted 2007-November-05, 12:20

3♠ or 4♦ but its not really germane to the circumstances where this hand came up.
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Posted 2007-November-05, 15:32

This is funny, I had a similar hand yesterday where I did decide to splinter with the stiff king. However, the auction was different:

2C - (Dbl) - p - (2D)
2S - (p) - 4D -(p)
4H - (Dbl) - p - (p)
Rdbl - (p) - ??

I had something like Jxxx QJ10x K Jxxx. Do you agree with the auction so far? What's your call now? (playing against jdonn and jlall on BBO, highly amusing table)

I also bid 3D on Apollo's hand, the king of diamonds is my biggest card. In the auction above my LHO had bid diamonds so the king was less likely to be useful and I thought the splinter would be most descriptive.
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Posted 2007-November-05, 15:44

I would have just bid 3s with the above example.
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Posted 2007-November-05, 16:03

kenrexford, on Nov 5 2007, 06:43 PM, said:

3♠.

After 3NT, I'll cue 4♦.

After 4♥, then, from partner (Last Train), I'm bidding 5♣.

Agree.
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Posted 2007-November-06, 05:58

3♠
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Posted 2007-November-06, 10:20

I have a control so I will bid 3♠ and tell partner.
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Posted 2007-November-06, 10:58

Would try 4♠ if pard is an overbidder. My hand is trash for a slam anywayz.. Perhaps 3♠ if I trusted pard's scientific bidding skills.

Agree ♦K is a GOOD card, not bad.
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Posted 2007-November-06, 11:30

Hannie, on Nov 5 2007, 01:32 PM, said:

This is funny, I had a similar hand yesterday where I did decide to splinter with the stiff king. However, the auction was different:

2C - (Dbl) - p - (2D)
2S - (p) - 4D -(p)
4H - (Dbl)  - p - (p)
Rdbl - (p) - ??

I had something like Jxxx QJ10x K Jxxx. Do you agree with the auction so far? What's your call now? (playing against jdonn and jlall on BBO, highly amusing table)

I also bid 3D on Apollo's hand, the king of diamonds is my biggest card. In the auction above my LHO had bid diamonds so the king was less likely to be useful and I thought the splinter would be most descriptive.

Han - these were the circumstances where this hand came up.

One of the senior kibitzers challenged the notion that others were making that slam should be bid after the splinter. He specified the hand in this thread of an example of where slam would be poor.
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Posted 2007-November-06, 12:47

pclayton, on Nov 6 2007, 01:30 PM, said:

... slam ...

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