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Posted 2007-October-21, 12:43

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E, known to be an aggressive pre-empter *sometimes*, opens 5♣
X would be for takeout (or transferrable values in that partner can pass) sort of thing

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Posted 2007-October-21, 12:50

The fun bid, 5♦.
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Posted 2007-October-21, 12:57

Pass.

I have a reasonable expectation of going plus against 5♣. I have no idea whether 5♦ will make, and many times when it does, partner will bid 6 (he will be expecting more for my 5♦ bid).

The harder question is what do you do when it goes P-(P)-x?
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Posted 2007-October-21, 13:06

Pass now. If pard dbls, I'll bid 6♦.
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Posted 2007-October-21, 15:01

pass, bidding is just undisciplined.
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Posted 2007-October-21, 15:06

I think I would bid 5D, in fact I know I would. We all have our limitations.
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Posted 2007-October-21, 17:34

whereagles, on Oct 21 2007, 02:06 PM, said:

Pass now. If pard dbls, I'll bid 6♦.

Interesting choice. I would be trying to decide between passing and bidding 5♦. Passing over 5♣ and then bidding 6♦ when pard doubles in passout seat seems inconsistent to me, even though it might be the winning call.
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Posted 2007-October-21, 18:01

Auto pass.
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Posted 2007-October-21, 18:08

ArtK78, on Oct 22 2007, 06:34 AM, said:

whereagles, on Oct 21 2007, 02:06 PM, said:

Pass now. If pard dbls, I'll bid 6♦.

Interesting choice. I would be trying to decide between passing and bidding 5♦. Passing over 5♣ and then bidding 6♦ when pard doubles in passout seat seems inconsistent to me, even though it might be the winning call.

Why? Sounds reasonable to me. Certainly pass this hand now, in fact that decision is not close.
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Posted 2007-October-21, 21:33

The_Hog, on Oct 21 2007, 07:08 PM, said:

ArtK78, on Oct 22 2007, 06:34 AM, said:

whereagles, on Oct 21 2007, 02:06 PM, said:

Pass now. If pard dbls, I'll bid 6♦.

Interesting choice. I would be trying to decide between passing and bidding 5♦. Passing over 5♣ and then bidding 6♦ when pard doubles in passout seat seems inconsistent to me, even though it might be the winning call.

Why? Sounds reasonable to me. Certainly pass this hand now, in fact that decision is not close.

Maybe you misunderstood what I said. I said that I would pass over 5♣. When partner doubles in passout seat, I would decide between passing it out and bidding 5♦.

Passing over 5♣ and then jumping to 6♦ when partner doubles in passout seat seems inconsistent to me. It is just another way of hanging partner.
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Posted 2007-October-23, 12:22

Clearcut pass. Why anyone would overcall now is beyond me.
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