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Codo, on Nov 2 2007, 10:11 AM, said:
mgoetze, on Oct 30 2007, 06:41 AM, said:
TheoKole, on Oct 25 2007, 04:13 AM, said:
In order for a psyche to be legal there must be some element of risk invovled, and that is why in Greece, a 2 club opener, a strong 2 opener, and a 1 club Precision opener are banned as psyches.
Sorry, I don't quite understand. Say I'm playing a strong club, and I open 1♣ (showing 15+ HCP) with some random 8-HCP hand. LHO passes, CHO counts 24 HCP in his hand and consequently bids 7NT, RHO has an Ace and doubles. You don't call that a risk?
I could understand banning them in 3rd seat as an application of this "rule", however I don't think it's an accordance with the laws with regard to natural strong 2s.
And the possibility that this happens is how high? 0,0000001 %?
Very brave to psych these openings....
Oh well, change 24 points to 9 and p will bid game, or keep doubling opps. You may protect your psyche by passing p's forcing bid, but if you do so, next time he holds a nice two-suiter and makes 1♠+4. Of course the risk is real.
A risk-free psyche is probably either a controled psyche (not allowed) or it is a situation in which the "psycher" is in control of the auction, such as
3♣-(pass)-3N*
in which case some say it's not a psyche because the message is "I try 3N undoubled, you don't have to care why I do that", so it's not a deviation to bid it with zero points and some club tolerance.