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Will you bid 3♠ or 4♠ now?
If you bid 3♠ now, LHO bid 4♥ and partner pass, will you bid again?
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Posted 2007-October-12, 19:45
Will you bid 3♠ or 4♠ now?
If you bid 3♠ now, LHO bid 4♥ and partner pass, will you bid again?
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Posted 2007-October-12, 23:12
Close between 3S and 4S, both are reasonable I think.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2007-October-13, 00:00
I have to disagree with han, I think 4 is horrible and 3 is completely normal. This hand just doesn't have the goods to bid 4 and RHO is passed so there's not much reason to do it.
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Posted 2007-October-13, 03:30
Hi,
3S, but I can live with 4S.
But I cant live with a partner, who bids 3S
followed by 4S.
If you bid 3S, you made up your mind, they
had to guess as they bid 4H, and a 4S bid is
justified only if you got add. information,
I dont think that 4H gives you this add. information.
With kind regards
Marlowe
3S, but I can live with 4S.
But I cant live with a partner, who bids 3S
followed by 4S.
If you bid 3S, you made up your mind, they
had to guess as they bid 4H, and a 4S bid is
justified only if you got add. information,
I dont think that 4H gives you this add. information.
With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
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Posted 2007-October-13, 05:26
If there is a book hand for 3♠ it must be this one. And never bid your hand twice of course, so 4♥ is the final contract.
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Posted 2007-October-13, 06:42
This hand is more or less an example hand for 3♠ .
Kind regards,
Harald
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Posted 2007-October-13, 09:56
3♠ all the way. Once you decide to preempt, bid as high as you dare, then shut up unless forced or invited to bid by partner.
Bidding 4♠ over 1♠ is too much imo; imo, 3♠ is plenty; but if partner got carried away and did it and bid a direct 4♠ on this crap, I would just say "Oh well, good try." It could work and sometimes it does!!
If on the other hand, he chose 3♠, and then bid 4♠ over 4♥, however, I'd say "What the hell are you doing? You can't preempt twice!" He passed captaincy to me when he preempted with 3♠, and now he is defying that decision. That is just wrong and a breach of partnership discipline. Unless he miscounted the first time, which he didn't.
Bidding 4♠ over 1♠ is too much imo; imo, 3♠ is plenty; but if partner got carried away and did it and bid a direct 4♠ on this crap, I would just say "Oh well, good try." It could work and sometimes it does!!
If on the other hand, he chose 3♠, and then bid 4♠ over 4♥, however, I'd say "What the hell are you doing? You can't preempt twice!" He passed captaincy to me when he preempted with 3♠, and now he is defying that decision. That is just wrong and a breach of partnership discipline. Unless he miscounted the first time, which he didn't.
♣♦♥♠ Philosophy consists very largely of one philosopher arguing that other philosophers are all jackasses. He usually proves it, and I should add that he also usually proves that he is one himself. H.L. Mencken. ♣♦♥♠
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Posted 2007-October-13, 10:26
ralph23, on Oct 13 2007, 10:56 AM, said:
3♠ all the way. Once you decide to preempt, bid as high as you dare, then shut up unless forced or invited to bid by partner.
Bidding 4♠ over 1♠ is too much imo; imo, 3♠ is plenty; but if partner got carried away and did it and bid a direct 4♠ on this crap, I would just say "Oh well, good try." It could work and sometimes it does!!
If on the other hand, he chose 3♠, and then bid 4♠ over 4♥, however, I'd say "What the hell are you doing? You can't preempt twice!" He passed captaincy to me when he preempted with 3♠, and now he is defying that decision. That is just wrong and a breach of partnership discipline. Unless he miscounted the first time, which he didn't.
Bidding 4♠ over 1♠ is too much imo; imo, 3♠ is plenty; but if partner got carried away and did it and bid a direct 4♠ on this crap, I would just say "Oh well, good try." It could work and sometimes it does!!
If on the other hand, he chose 3♠, and then bid 4♠ over 4♥, however, I'd say "What the hell are you doing? You can't preempt twice!" He passed captaincy to me when he preempted with 3♠, and now he is defying that decision. That is just wrong and a breach of partnership discipline. Unless he miscounted the first time, which he didn't.
other than disagreeing with the gentle response to an immediate 4♠ (I agree with Justin on that), I agree with this post
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Posted 2007-October-13, 10:54
It's about as good a 3♠ as I can have. Any more distribution and I would bid 4, any more strength I would make a mixed raise. I would certainly bid 3 on worse hands but this is still in the range (at the top).
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Posted 2007-October-13, 10:59
It looks like a classic 3♠ bid to me. I would bid 3♠ and pass the 4♥ call.
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Posted 2007-October-13, 13:20
I really like this hand. I think its a touch strong for 3♠ at NV.
I have two nice features: the ♠K and the stiff. A preemptive raise usually shows one. The 5th club is nice too.
If I had a mixed raise available, I'd upgrade the hand to that. I'll make a single raise and re-compete to 3♠ if given the chance.
I have two nice features: the ♠K and the stiff. A preemptive raise usually shows one. The 5th club is nice too.
If I had a mixed raise available, I'd upgrade the hand to that. I'll make a single raise and re-compete to 3♠ if given the chance.
"Phil" on BBO
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Posted 2007-October-14, 07:16
Let's not forget might have made a "miles 4CM overcall" on
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Axxxx
Kxx
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3♠ seems right.
AQ9x
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3♠ seems right.
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Posted 2007-October-16, 02:49
3♠ : book hand with no defence, 4 trumps and a single.
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Posted 2007-October-16, 03:03
skaeran, on Oct 13 2007, 01:42 PM, said:
This hand is more or less an example hand for 3♠ .
agree
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