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#1 User is offline   kgr 

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Posted 2007-October-08, 18:02

Scoring: MP

(1C)-1H-(DBL)-??
What do you bid now (you can assume 2H,2NT,2C,3C are all raises - 2C can be GF if no raise)
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Posted 2007-October-08, 18:32

2C
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Posted 2007-October-08, 19:47

Well, now isn't that interesting. I have four suggested ways to raise hearts (I'm sure that there are more) without any definition as to meaning (yet 2NT and 3C as raise options suggests some sophistication), and I'm supposed to pick one.

And Justin can!

Seriously, though, I suppose that I can guess as to meanings:

2H = weak raise (wrong)
3C = limix/constructive unbalanced with four pieces (wrong)
2NT = limit+ with four pieces (wrong)
2C = flexible (right)

But, I am guessing somewhat.
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Posted 2007-October-08, 19:54

Redouble. Flexible.
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Posted 2007-October-08, 20:31

Agree with Ken.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2007-October-09, 01:37

2S.

Partner should be able to take this one
as a fit jump.

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Posted 2007-October-09, 01:53

I would prefer to have better support for a fitjump. 2 then.
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Posted 2007-October-09, 05:17

I would xx first to show 3 Hearts and show the overall strength later.

If this is not discussed, I take the raise which shows inv.+ and which does not promise 4 Hearts, I guess this is 2
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Posted 2007-October-09, 06:03

I agree with Ken, like everyone.
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Posted 2007-October-09, 08:00

I'd bid 1
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Posted 2007-October-09, 08:14

Maybe the singleton clubs give me enough offense-defense for the 3-level so I should bid 2N. I'll probably bid 3 over their 3 anyway. Then again, if p has club vastage and no guard 2N may take us too high. I don't think it matters much.
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Posted 2007-October-09, 11:31

mike777, on Oct 8 2007, 09:54 PM, said:

Redouble. Flexible.

We play redouble in my main parternship as Rosenkrantz (artificial raise to 2 with a top honor) and that's wrong here for at least two obvious reasons. 2 for me and really no contest.
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Posted 2007-October-09, 11:37

2. Redouble for me shows points and denies a fit.
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Posted 2007-October-09, 12:59

2 seem to be the obvious choice playing standard methods.

With one of my regulars we apply transfer advances, 2 showing 's and 2 being the good raise.
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Posted 2007-October-09, 12:59

Helene, it is possible that the opponents do not bid 3C. If the auction stays low you may be able to bid 2S next.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2007-October-09, 13:01

Hannie, on Oct 9 2007, 01:59 PM, said:

Helene, it is possible that the opponents do not bid 3C. If the auction stays low you may be able to bid 2S next.

You may be able to pass next :P
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Posted 2007-October-09, 13:04

Well, Helene thought that the hand is good enough to force to the 3-level.

Playing with you Justin I'd just bid 2H to start with and give you a well meant GLP.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2007-October-09, 13:26

Hannie, on Oct 9 2007, 02:04 PM, said:

Well, Helene thought that the hand is good enough to force to the 3-level.

Playing with you Justin I'd just bid 2H to start with and give you a well meant GLP.

Playing with you I'd pass !H
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Posted 2007-October-09, 13:27

Well yes, I'd be playing it.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2007-October-09, 13:52

Hannie, on Oct 9 2007, 10:59 AM, said:

Helene, it is possible that the opponents do not bid 3C. If the auction stays low you may be able to bid 2S next.

This brings up an important point.

If 2 doesn't specifically promise heart support, I think a subsequent 2 (for example):

1 - 1 - dbl - 2
2 - pass - pass - 2

would show a hand too strong too good for a NF 1 call, and would tend not to show heart support. If thats the case, I wouldn't bid 2, but would just show my heart support here. Even if the cuebid promised support, 2 feels like an overbid.

I prefer to play that, with the exception of a 2/1, a new suit is forcing after an overcall.

Transfer advances solve some of these headaches, but we usually can't transfer into a higher ranking suit.
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