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Query about Canadian disaster hand in Shangai

#1 User is offline   nikos59 

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Posted 2007-October-09, 13:08

The biggest penalty registered in Shangai (so far at least) was
2300, in the Round 11 match between Canada and Poland.


Scoring: IMP


West North East South
Gierulski Klimowicz Skrzypczak Frukacz



This is an interesting slam hand for EW. But Poland collected 2300 when South played 4H doubled and made one trick after the H8 lead.

Incidentally, the Canadians managed to overcome this huge blow and they went on to win rather comfortably, 40 to 25 although they lost 18 imps here.

Does anyone know (or can ask the players) how the auction went?

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Posted 2007-October-09, 14:51

nikos59, on Oct 9 2007, 08:08 PM, said:

The biggest penalty registered in Shangai (so far at least) was
2300, in the Round 11 match between Canada and Poland.


Does anyone know (or can ask the players) how the auction went?

I suggest asking the Poles.
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Posted 2007-October-10, 14:49

cardsharp, on Oct 9 2007, 03:51 PM, said:

I suggest asking the Poles.

Yea, 'cause the Canadians really don't want to discuss it!! :) :)
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Posted 2007-October-11, 07:40

Good defence to take 12 tricks. Declarer missed a club ruff at trick 2 though. :P
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Posted 2007-October-11, 08:04

NS play a multi and three-level xfer preempts, I suspect one of those was opened on the North cards.
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Posted 2007-October-13, 10:22

I believe the auction went 2♦-X-4♥-X-P-P-P
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Posted 2007-October-13, 15:27

Thank you Jon for your suggestion; then, South thought 4H was pass/correct
and North took it to mean "to play"?

Anyway, yet another Multi disaster, this time against the perpetrators.
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Posted 2007-October-13, 15:33

jonottawa, on Oct 13 2007, 06:22 PM, said:

I believe the auction went 2♦-X-4♥-X-P-P-P

Darn, is it really possible for a pair playing in the BB not having covered this in their agreements?
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Posted 2007-October-14, 15:07

Their agreement of 2♦-P-4♥ was to play, not pass or correct.

See note 11.

http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files...wicz-frukaz.pdf

So while it looks at first blush like Piotr should have known to correct, Wally should have known better than to make such an ambiguous bid.
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Posted 2007-October-15, 02:19

I believe it's common to play it as "to play" uncontested, but p/c after interference.
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Posted 2007-October-26, 10:29

cardsharp, on Oct 9 2007, 03:51 PM, said:

nikos59, on Oct 9 2007, 08:08 PM, said:

The biggest penalty registered in Shangai (so far at least) was
2300, in the Round 11 match between Canada and Poland.


Does anyone know (or can ask the players) how the auction went?

I suggest asking the Poles.

It seems like all the players at the table are Poles ;-)
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