[matmat]

sceptic, on Oct 7 2007, 03:17 AM, said:

not alerting Pshcyes

they're alertable?!

[helene_t]

There's a lot of confusion about what's alertable and what's not. Once we held an open Easter drive. The snacks served at the last table had gotten cold by then. One of the opps said "arghhh this one is cold, why didn't you alert that, opps".

[sceptic]

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they're alertable?!

urs should be

[matmat]

sceptic, on Oct 7 2007, 05:31 AM, said:

urs should be

?!

[Tola18]

manners, like drumming with fingers on the table, or humming and making faces during bidding and so on.
VERY common.
Usually it is NOT cheating, but as opponent you are feeling unsecure. Besides, a regular partner can probably make some conclusions.

Holding a card several long seconds before playing it. Annoying especial in trumph-play.
If done as declarer, it is pure stupidity: you show your distribution.
As defender it is almost cheating, as you show you have more trumphs /etc.

[paulg]

At the clubs that I play at most people, if not all, are there to enjoy the evening. They are not chasing masterpoints but would be very happy to win occasionally and do well in some of the club competitions. If you look at last year's winners you will see the club has a lot of competition winners, as it has lots of competitions and the standard is fairly uniform.

In such an environment tempo variations are rife, some doubles are louder than others (though many have poor hearing!), chat about farming and vacations tend to happen whilst I'm thinking (I'm probably the only one who does this), questions about unalerted bids, etc.

But I really do not care about any of this, after all it's a friendly club. The only thing that really annoys me is the player who tries to use the law book to advantage without calling the Director, especially when he is bullying the opposition.

Paul

[jtfanclub]

Cascade, on Oct 5 2007, 07:16 PM, said:

jtfanclub, on Oct 6 2007, 02:10 AM, said:

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Dummy auto-playing a singleton at trick one. I don't make remarks about this.

Technically, a singleton from dummy can be 'considered played', so dummy can do this.

According to what source?

Nope, it's my mistake, I misremembered Law 57. I thought it said, well, never mind what I thought it said.

My apologies.

[han]

cardsharp, on Oct 8 2007, 09:45 AM, said:

At the clubs that I play at most people, if not all, are there to enjoy the evening. They are not chasing masterpoints but would be very happy to win occasionally and do well in some of the club competitions. If you look at last year's winners you will see the club has a lot of competition winners, as it has lots of competitions and the standard is fairly uniform.

In such an environment tempo variations are rife, some doubles are louder than others (though many have poor hearing!), chat about farming and vacations tend to happen whilst I'm thinking (I'm probably the only one who does this), questions about unalerted bids, etc.

But I really do not care about any of this, after all it's a friendly club. The only thing that really annoys me is the player who tries to use the law book to advantage without calling the Director, especially when he is bullying the opposition.

Paul

I agree with that. I also made a note to use whilst in a complete sentence one day.

Done.

[mycroft]

The one that gets me is the guy who takes advantage of a lax club environment when it's his side that made the error, but is a stickler for the rules when it's the opponents turn to have a minor slipup.

Yeah, I'm a stickler for the rules. Everybody knows that - even at the club. But more often than not, when I call the director, it's because of something I or my partner has done or look like we've done. I don't see why I should get away with something I wouldn't let them get away with.

You can have a friendly game playing strictly to the Laws; you can have an unfriendly game, especially if one player thinks the strictures are to unnerve him. You can have a friendly game playing loose, especially if all theplayers trust each other; it can quickly turn unfriendly when something "that seems similar" to what has been let slide isn't let slide this time. However, the unfriendly gets worse here as (because it's a "friendly game"), the discussion happening before the TD is finally called raises tempers; at least in the strict game, the anger can be aimed (but not vented) at the TD - and it's usually less anger.

The worst TD calls from a TD perspective are where the players have already tried to solve it. They're usually upset at each other, and are not capable of letting the other side speak their full side, so there's interruptions and snide comments, and... unless you control it. Luckily, it's easy to notice when you've been called to this situation, and you know you have to keep control right away.

Michael.

[ralph23]

Hannie, on Oct 9 2007, 02:17 AM, said:

I also made a note to use whilst in a complete sentence one day.

Done.

That doesn't count, and in any case don't use it in the Midwest

[han]

lol!