[cnszsun]

Scoring: IMP

1♥-(2♠)-?

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Would you raise to 3H or pass first time. If you passed, partner doubled at balancing seat, Would to jump to 4H?

[whereagles]

I would have bid because I'm short in spades.

If pard has some extras and spades, he might pass out 2♠ fearing a minor 2-suiter with me. I don't have that 2-suiter, so I must bid.

[helene_t]

Yes I would raise, but it's close and maybe some of the experts will say that I'm insane.

If p reopen with a double I will certainly jump to 4♥. Or maybe bid 3♠.

[Codo]

No I would pass, but it's close and maybe some of the experts will say that I'm insane.

After p reopen with a double I will certainly bid 3 Heart, which is stronger then 2 NT.

[ArtK78]

I would pass, but I would not say that a raise is insane.

I like to have a little in reserve, as partner always expects full values for a bid. If I had a fourth heart, it would be a clear raise. but with only 3 hearts, I would pass now and bid 3♥ if partner reopens.

It is inconsistent to pass and then bid game if partner reopens. If your hand is worth a game bid after a reopening double, then it is worth an immediate raise.

I guess that some would say that I am insane for passing over 2♠.

[mikeh]

The reopening double tells me that something very, very strange is going on. LHO passed the 2♠ bid, I have a stiff spade, and partner reopens?

As it is, when the 2♠ comes to me, I would be expecting LHO to bid, certainly if I bid 3♥, it would be based on the apparent certainty that LHO is bidding. And do I want that to happen? More importantly, do I want partner making a decision over 3 or 4♠, thinking that I had a full raise to 2♥... the 3♥ bid shows a good 2♥ to a average limit... with a maximum limit, we bid game. But I don't have anything resembling a good 2♥ bid.

And, having made the sane pass, to jump to 4♥ suggests I changed my mind, when there is no basis for doing so. I have learned little of significance after my pass, other than the fact that something very strange is going on... but what kind of strange?

[whereagles]

1♥ (2♠) pass (pass)
dbl (pass) 3♥ = decent raise, but not enough for a direct raise

1♥ (2♠) pass (pass)
dbl (pass) 2NT+3♥ = least of evils. May have 0 with doubleton ♥ ^^

[pclayton]

I pass the 1st time and 3♥ over a double.

If pard reopens with anything but a double, I'll try 4♥.

[mike777]

cnszsun, on Oct 4 2007, 07:50 AM, said:

Scoring: IMP

1♥-(2♠)-?

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Would you raise to 3H or pass first time. If you passed, partner doubled at balancing seat, Would to jump to 4H?

1) pass now easy
2) what? partner reopens with a double,??????????????? I rebid 3H.......looks like the opp can make 4s...easy.

[vang]

i'll vote for pass and i don't think it's close... i like methods explained by whereagles

[helene_t]

OK, it turned out to be me rather than Roland who is insane.

[Fluffy]

helene_t, on Oct 4 2007, 07:14 PM, said:

OK, it turned out to be me rather than Roland who is insane.

yeah you are insane , I have 2 ways of 3 level raise on my system, and yet I would pass without a doubt.

[P_Marlowe]

#1 yes, but a direct raise does not
really promise more in my partnership,
but I can live with pass
#2 no, why should I?

With kind regards
Marlowe

[skjaeran]

I often favour light raises, but this isn't even close. Pass.

After partner's reopening double nothing happened to my hand. I'm good enough for 3♥ now (playing lebensohl here).

[jdeegan]

I'm happy to see that the good players agree with my view that this hand is way, way below an immediate 3♥ bid and nothing special on the next round. From my bad experiences (like down three or they make 4♠ doubled), it almost hurts me to think of bidding 3♥ the first time. The problem, as I recall, was not enough trumps combined with a shortage of high cards.

What about a similar hand like:

x
10xxx
K10x
J9xxx

Is 3♥ the first time OK?