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3nt or 4h?
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Posted 2007-September-30, 20:43
Pick-up partner, so 2nt is not an option.
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Posted 2007-September-30, 20:47
Pass isn't out of this world.
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Posted 2007-September-30, 20:57
4♥.
Pass is very strange.
Pass is very strange.
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Posted 2007-September-30, 21:40
not sure why 2N is not an option.. is it because we don't know what partner will think it means? Tough situation, since we therefore don't really know what anything means 
3N is silly...just where are our tricks.. heck even if partner has AKJxxx in hearts, we still need more luck to make 3N than 4♥ on most layouts. And when his hearts are at all less than that, we rate to have very little play.
So in this guessing game, 4♥ is the logical call. Pass could work but I'm not brave enough to make that call red at imps. My teammates would think I was dead..
3N is silly...just where are our tricks.. heck even if partner has AKJxxx in hearts, we still need more luck to make 3N than 4♥ on most layouts. And when his hearts are at all less than that, we rate to have very little play.
So in this guessing game, 4♥ is the logical call. Pass could work but I'm not brave enough to make that call red at imps. My teammates would think I was dead..
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Posted 2007-September-30, 21:43
Well if those two agree it must be right! 4♥ as well.
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Posted 2007-September-30, 22:02
jdonn, on Sep 30 2007, 10:43 PM, said:
Well if those two agree it must be right! 4♥ as well.
Ken and I are beginning to agree on a lot of bidding! I'm not sure which one of us is the most scared
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Posted 2007-September-30, 22:06
mikeh, on Sep 30 2007, 11:02 PM, said:
jdonn, on Sep 30 2007, 10:43 PM, said:
Well if those two agree it must be right! 4♥ as well.
Ken and I are beginning to agree on a lot of bidding! I'm not sure which one of us is the most scared
Damn! I must be getting old! LOL
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Posted 2007-September-30, 22:10
2NT for me.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2007-October-01, 12:01
It's right between a pass and a 4H bid (ie a perfect 2N), I guess I'd go 4H
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Posted 2007-October-01, 12:11
4♥. Clubs may not be running and we might have a problem in spades.
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Posted 2007-October-01, 12:18
Hannie, on Sep 30 2007, 11:10 PM, said:
2NT for me.
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2NT is not an option
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Posted 2007-October-01, 12:28
partner is vulnerable, so 4♥. Even if 2NT was avaible.
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Posted 2007-October-01, 13:45
4♥, and a note to check on pard's style later 
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Posted 2007-October-01, 14:24
i try: what if pd has AKxxxx? Then 3NT is out (no entry) so how many ♥ do we make?
5♥ 2♦ ♣A = 8 would be just making and 10 tricks would need some luck. I think it is just a pass but it's close.
5♥ 2♦ ♣A = 8 would be just making and 10 tricks would need some luck. I think it is just a pass but it's close.
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Posted 2007-October-01, 17:40
Gerben42, on Oct 1 2007, 03:24 PM, said:
i try: what if pd has AKxxxx? Then 3NT is out (no entry) so how many ♥ do we make?
5♥ 2♦ ♣A = 8 would be just making and 10 tricks would need some luck. I think it is just a pass but it's close.
5♥ 2♦ ♣A = 8 would be just making and 10 tricks would need some luck. I think it is just a pass but it's close.
Wow.
The very conservative view is partner with AKxxxx in hearts for 5 tricks. This may split 3-3, or 4-2 with partner having a surprise J or 10.
Then we look at diamonds for 2. True enough. However, if partner has a third diamond, we have a 25% shot at no diamond losers if he has the 10.
Losing both black finesses, if they must be taken, if only 25%. So, 75% of the time we get to nine tricks with all Hell breaking loose in trumps and diamonds.
If the club hook works or not, we have plenty of transportation to possibly establish clubs for spade and/or diamond pitches.
Passing seems way conservative. When the average minimum still looks nice for game, I want to be there.
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Posted 2007-October-02, 12:13
With no methods I just raise to 4♥.
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