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#1 User is offline   hrothgar 

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Posted 2007-October-01, 07:38

Here's a second hand from this weekend's Swiss Teams event:

First Match of the Day:
IMPS
Red versus Red

You hold

Q9763
Ax
Qx
T873

Partner opens a 15-17 NT

I bid 2♥ as a transfer to Spades
Partner bid 2♠ (denying a variety of different super accepts)

I see two reasonable choices:

1. Pass 2♠
2. Bid 2NT and invite game

Even though we were red at IMPS, I chose to pass. I figured that partner needed a max in order for game to have a good shot (the odds strongly favored partner holding a 15 count rather than a 17 count). More over, I thought that the Ax and Qx weren't pulling their full weight.

Spades broke 4-1, 2♠ made on the nose and I thought we were headed for a good board (Sue is a very good declarer and defender. If she made eight tricks, the other table wasn't likely to make more)

Regretfully, the other table played 3NT which also made.
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Posted 2007-October-01, 07:42

i could be wrong, but if there are 8 tricks available in spades on a misfit, it's likely there are 8 tricks in NT. i'd risk an invite with this. we have a 9 and a 10 in addition to the hcp...
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Posted 2007-October-01, 08:11

I think this is a clear pass, I had thought about it for a second at the table, but this is no great 8 count, the downsides are as you mentioned and your main suit is no real beauty.
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Posted 2007-October-01, 08:18

Just because partner did not make a super accept does not mean he is not maximum, he may hold only 2 S and perhaps a 5 card red suit. If he does hold 5 red cards I have awesome help in those suits. For me I invite with this, that is what I have.
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Posted 2007-October-01, 08:47

I pass but its close. Give me the ♠10 or move my ♦Q to the black suits and I'll take a call.
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Posted 2007-October-01, 09:03

Probably because I started playing 16-18 NT, I always invite with these.
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Posted 2007-October-01, 09:48

I would invite, I think at matchpoints it's close (partly due to the fact spades might be a lousy strain anyway) but red at imps it's clear.
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Posted 2007-October-01, 11:47

Those who know me won't be surprised I consider it clear to invite with hands like this. I don't have any great insight other than that it just seems to work, and if this hand occurred in the bermuda bowl I would expect almost everyone to invite.
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Posted 2007-October-01, 14:34

It's imps. You have to invite.

Pass if you need a swing, but under normal circumstances, you cannot afford missing a game.
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Posted 2007-October-01, 15:35

Yep, I'd invite for sure. I'd pass at MPs.

System plug: I really like stayman followed by 2S to show this hand.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2007-October-01, 18:16

Hannie, on Oct 1 2007, 04:35 PM, said:

Yep, I'd invite for sure. I'd pass at MPs.

System plug: I really like stayman followed by 2S to show this hand.

You won't get enough mileage out of playing stayman then 2♠ shows Q9763 Ax Qx T873, IMO.
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Posted 2007-October-01, 19:48

I've told you about this Dutch expression before Josh:

A good reader only needs half a word.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2007-October-01, 20:09

Hannie, on Oct 1 2007, 04:35 PM, said:

Yep, I'd invite for sure. I'd pass at MPs.

System plug: I really like stayman followed by 2S to show this hand.

Same here.
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Posted 2007-October-02, 13:04

I'd invite here both at IMP's and MP.
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Posted 2007-October-02, 13:11

Hannie, on Oct 1 2007, 08:48 PM, said:

I've told you about this Dutch expression before Josh:

A good reader only needs half a word.

I still don't know what that means. Does a good cliche only need half a meaning?

BTW, a google search for "Dutch expressions" yielded about 1500 hits. A search for "Josh Donn" and another for "Joshua Donn" combined for about 800. And a search for "a good reader only needs half a word" yielded 0. I leave it to you to interpret these results.
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Posted 2007-October-02, 13:46

Hannie, on Oct 1 2007, 09:35 PM, said:

System plug: I really like stayman followed by 2S to show this hand.

yeah.. good add for KERI :D
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Posted 2007-October-02, 14:33

Clear invite for me.
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Posted 2007-October-02, 18:30

jdonn, on Oct 2 2007, 02:11 PM, said:

Hannie, on Oct 1 2007, 08:48 PM, said:

I've told you about this Dutch expression before Josh:

A good reader only needs half a word.

I still don't know what that means. Does a good cliche only need half a meaning?

BTW, a google search for "Dutch expressions" yielded about 1500 hits. A search for "Josh Donn" and another for "Joshua Donn" combined for about 800. And a search for "a good reader only needs half a word" yielded 0. I leave it to you to interpret these results.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=com...alf+woord+nodig
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2007-October-02, 19:01

whereagles, on Oct 2 2007, 11:46 AM, said:

Hannie, on Oct 1 2007, 09:35 PM, said:

System plug: I really like stayman followed by 2S to show this hand.

yeah.. good add for KERI :)

This isn't a Keri plug.

The delayed 2♠ Han is referring to means something slightly different than the Keri call in the same sequence.
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Posted 2007-October-03, 06:33

true. 1NT-2♣-2♦-2M

keri: 4 or 5 in suit M, invitation, NF
han's: I guess it's the same, but always shows 5 cards in M
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