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NS play 4cM weak NT.
1♥-2♥*-3♣-3♠
4♥-p-p-4♠
all pass
*5spades, 4+minor
what happened here?
+150 didn't fare very well vs +680.
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lost 11 IMP assign the blame
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Posted 2007-October-01, 06:51
NS play 4cM weak NT.
1♥-2♥*-3♣-3♠
4♥-p-p-4♠
all pass
*5spades, 4+minor
what happened here?
+150 didn't fare very well vs +680.
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
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Posted 2007-October-01, 07:02
i blame the dog
to be honest, the only thing missing really is a final double. maybe north can venture a 4d call instead of 4h to make things clearer for p.
bringing back a 500 compared to a 680 is not that bad. (especially since on this layout it really should only be 650, and if you rearrange things slightly even 5♥ won't make).
others will probably disagree, but bidding to 5h on the NS hands is, imo, a long term losing action.
to be honest, the only thing missing really is a final double. maybe north can venture a 4d call instead of 4h to make things clearer for p.
bringing back a 500 compared to a 680 is not that bad. (especially since on this layout it really should only be 650, and if you rearrange things slightly even 5♥ won't make).
others will probably disagree, but bidding to 5h on the NS hands is, imo, a long term losing action.
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Posted 2007-October-01, 07:17
The final pass is weak, opener can be expected to have 2+ tricks and South might get 3 or more, can't pass.
otoh, I would have been very tempted to open 4♥
otoh, I would have been very tempted to open 4♥
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Posted 2007-October-01, 08:28
It is hard to find a good bid for south after 4 spade is passed around to him:
This hand screams: Double fit: They have spades and diamonds. In this case, my defensive values are lower then it seems and we may even have a double swing.
So I think I have to bid again just as an insurance against a double swing. As my pd has 7+ hearts, I would bid 5 Heart and nail 5 Spade.
This hand screams: Double fit: They have spades and diamonds. In this case, my defensive values are lower then it seems and we may even have a double swing.
So I think I have to bid again just as an insurance against a double swing. As my pd has 7+ hearts, I would bid 5 Heart and nail 5 Spade.
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More system is not the answer...
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More system is not the answer...
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Posted 2007-October-01, 08:45
5♥? What double fit? Did pard support our clubs along the way?
Just hammer 4♠. Pard can still pull (he won't).
The rest of the auction looks fine to me.
Just hammer 4♠. Pard can still pull (he won't).
The rest of the auction looks fine to me.
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Posted 2007-October-01, 09:42
South forgot to lay the shmack down on 4♠.
Please let me know about any questions or interest or bug reports about GIB.
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Posted 2007-October-01, 12:04
Who is making 680?
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Posted 2007-October-01, 12:16
Fluffy, on Oct 1 2007, 10:04 AM, said:
Who is making 680?
Csaba is on a non-spade lead. ♣, ♣ pitching the spade, ♦, ♦, ruff ♠ to hand, ♦...
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Posted 2007-October-01, 15:26
Jlall, on Oct 1 2007, 12:49 PM, said:
Yes, south missed his obvious double.
The alpha and omega of this deal. Looking at just the two north-south hands, and trusting the opponents bidding, I don't particularly want to be in 5♥, much less 6♥.
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Posted 2007-October-01, 15:32
double
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2007-October-02, 12:57
How come south passed out 4♠ - surely that's impossible on this auction?
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Posted 2007-October-03, 01:20
passing out is plain wrong...
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Posted 2007-October-03, 02:58
It looks like a forcing pass to me, but even if it was agreed as NF (if 3♣ was a NFB) double is obvious.
So 100% to South.
So 100% to South.
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Posted 2007-October-03, 06:54
anyway that's impossible bidding S have to say something.
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