h2osmom, on Sep 11 2007, 12:18 PM, said:
But you are running late. Opps ask you to defer calling director and play the rest of the set. You agree, play out the set, and call director after conclusion. Ruling is that you gave up your rights when you continued playing, result stands. Is this ruling correct? Is it fair? This occured at AX swiss at OC regionals.
Turn it around and answer some questions of yourself:
1) Did you know you are supposed to immediately call the director" when an infraction occurs?"
2) Did you know that by failing to call the director immediately, you may lose some or all of your rights to a remedy or resolution?
If you can state that you were unaware of the obligation to call the director immediately, then no, its not fair and probably not correct either.
If you can state that you were unaware that by failing to call the director immediately, you may lose some of all of your rights, then no, its not fair and probably not correct either.
The director should take this into consideration when making a decision on whether to rule or not, along with the fact that it was the opponents who requested the delay in calling the director.
If you were aware of 1 & 2 above, then the ruling is correct, even though you delayed calling the director at the opponents request to do so.
If I am not mistaken, you are a Flight C player, and were playing in an A/x flight. Given that, and had you informed the director that you were unaware of any such ruling or law, they should take that into consideration when deciding whether to rule or not. It is entirely possible the director just assumed since you were playing A/x, that you would be aware of this. So, in a sense, no the ruling is not correct when taken in context (assuming you did not know 1 & 2 above), but it is the correct ruling according to the laws. And no, its not fair; all you can do is chalk it up as a learning experience.
If you were aware of either 1) or 2) above, then you should have done as the laws require and called the director immediately, regardless of what the opponents wanted. Never let an opponent try to get you to do something that is not in YOUR best interests at the table. No matter what their reason is. Just tell them, "I'm sorry, but I am protecting my rights" and call the TD.
It's unfortunate that there are many players who will attempt to pull this sort of stunt, knowing that if they can convince someone not to call the director then and there, that the person will lose their rights to redress later and they will attempt thru any means possible to get you not to call the director. Do not let them intimidate you. Treat them exactly as you do me at the table.
If I had to bet, the misexplanation of the alert was probably also deliberate, in the hopes of getting your side to do exactly what happened at the table. I've seen this tactic pulled before also by players who should know better vs. people who are less likely to be aware of the rules. "Oh, did I say it was Drury?, I'm sorry, I meant negative double." You know that they knew damn good and well what the proper explanation was supposed to be, but you can never prove it.
Help
.
