Not any time you have 3+ clubs, just when your diamonds>clubs>hearts
two-suiter
#22
Posted 2007-September-05, 05:06
jillybean2, on Sep 5 2007, 02:28 AM, said:
How do you distinguish between U2nt and '2 suits' ?
The reason is that Michaels is not available and also you cannot bid 2♥.
(4♠)-4N
Two suits
(4♥)-4N
Minors, with spades you would have bid 4♠. (What to do with a ♠+m hand too strong for 4♠ I donno. Maybe 5♥.)
(1NT)-pass-(2♥)-2N
Minors. With hearts+m you would have doubled (or maybe bid 2♠ if that is Michaels, but I think standard is 2♠=3-suited take-out, especially against a weak 1NT).
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#23
Posted 2007-September-05, 08:22
OK, got it so far ty.
Now if 2nt bidder has 5♥ and 5♦ does a 3♦ bid indicate ♥'s and ♦'s or would they bid 3♥ here?
(1♠) p (2♠) 2NT*
(p) 3♣ (p) ?
Now if 2nt bidder has 5♥ and 5♦ does a 3♦ bid indicate ♥'s and ♦'s or would they bid 3♥ here?
(1♠) p (2♠) 2NT*
(p) 3♣ (p) ?
"And no matter what methods you play, it is essential, for anyone aspiring to learn to be a good player, to learn the importance of bidding shape properly. MikeH
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"100% certain that many excellent players would disagree. This is far more about style/judgment than right vs. wrong." Fred
#24
Posted 2007-September-05, 08:28
jillybean2, on Sep 5 2007, 08:22 AM, said:
OK, got it so far ty.
Now if 2nt bidder has 5♥ and 5♦ does a 3♦ bid indicate ♥'s and ♦'s or would they bid 3♥ here?
(1♠) p (2♠) 2NT*
(p) 3♣ (p) ?
Now if 2nt bidder has 5♥ and 5♦ does a 3♦ bid indicate ♥'s and ♦'s or would they bid 3♥ here?
(1♠) p (2♠) 2NT*
(p) 3♣ (p) ?
The former, correcting 3♣ to 3♦ shows the reds so that parter can pick. (Partner could have 2 hearts 3 diamonds and 4 clubs.)
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#25
Posted 2007-September-06, 08:26
Thanks
Why dont they teach this to B/I's or atleast mention that there is the possibilty of a 3rd suit with U2nt
"And no matter what methods you play, it is essential, for anyone aspiring to learn to be a good player, to learn the importance of bidding shape properly. MikeH
"100% certain that many excellent players would disagree. This is far more about style/judgment than right vs. wrong." Fred
"100% certain that many excellent players would disagree. This is far more about style/judgment than right vs. wrong." Fred

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