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Posted 2007-August-22, 10:56
Same match - last board. Red on white RHO opens a weak 2♦ in 3rd seat.
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Posted 2007-August-22, 11:07
3♣ looks obvious to me.
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Posted 2007-August-22, 11:14
3♣... I hope I do this in tempo.
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Posted 2007-August-22, 11:15
markleon, on Aug 22 2007, 09:14 AM, said:
3♣... I hope I do this in tempo.
LOL; I won't tell you what I did, but it wasn't in tempo
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Posted 2007-August-22, 11:18
pclayton, on Aug 22 2007, 01:15 PM, said:
markleon, on Aug 22 2007, 09:14 AM, said:
3♣... I hope I do this in tempo.
LOL; I won't tell you what I did, but it wasn't in tempo
I believe it...it took me about 5 minutes of debating with myself to do this. In real life, I'm afraid I may sit there for 10 seconds, not be able to decide what I want, realize that I'm taking too long, reject 3♣ as effectively barring partner after my long hesitation, and grab the 3N card as a last resort. Come close?
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Posted 2007-August-22, 11:25
markleon, on Aug 22 2007, 09:18 AM, said:
pclayton, on Aug 22 2007, 01:15 PM, said:
markleon, on Aug 22 2007, 09:14 AM, said:
3♣... I hope I do this in tempo.
LOL; I won't tell you what I did, but it wasn't in tempo
I believe it...it took me about 5 minutes of debating with myself to do this. In real life, I'm afraid I may sit there for 10 seconds, not be able to decide what I want, realize that I'm taking too long, reject 3♣ as effectively barring partner after my long hesitation, and grab the 3N card as a last resort. Come close?
More like 3 minutes instead of 10 seconds. You're right about the rest too
. I'll post a follow-up later today.
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Posted 2007-August-22, 11:34
Fluffy, on Aug 22 2007, 06:07 PM, said:
3♣ looks obvious to me.
same here
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Posted 2007-August-22, 13:49
This looks like such an obvious 3♣ to me that I can't say I can see the problem. Sure I'm heavy, but what reasonable alternative is there? I don't think I'd spend more than half the stop pause to decide this one at the table.
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Posted 2007-August-22, 14:01
3♣.
If partner bids 3♦, I think my diamond stopper is sufficient.
If partner bids 3♦, I think my diamond stopper is sufficient.
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Posted 2007-August-22, 14:59
Yeah I also bid 3C but I must say this hand is really heavy and I don't think 3NT is crazy (I tend to double first with a strong balanced hand).
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2007-August-22, 15:06
I tried 3N.
3C looks 'obvious' but considering most 5 counts will give you a likely 3N, its a big underbid. An old fashioned 4♣ is a good description too, but its probably conventional.
Hearts also look to be 5=5=3=0 or 5450 around the table, so its likely pard has a stop - perhaps a slow one.
Over 4N, pard tries 4N. Wow - as a passed hand....
Now what?
3C looks 'obvious' but considering most 5 counts will give you a likely 3N, its a big underbid. An old fashioned 4♣ is a good description too, but its probably conventional.
Hearts also look to be 5=5=3=0 or 5450 around the table, so its likely pard has a stop - perhaps a slow one.
Over 4N, pard tries 4N. Wow - as a passed hand....
Now what?
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Posted 2007-August-22, 17:32
pclayton, on Aug 22 2007, 04:06 PM, said:
I tried 3N.
3C looks 'obvious' but considering most 5 counts will give you a likely 3N, its a big underbid. An old fashioned 4♣ is a good description too, but its probably conventional.
Hearts also look to be 5=5=3=0 or 5450 around the table, so its likely pard has a stop - perhaps a slow one.
Over 4N, pard tries 4N. Wow - as a passed hand....
Now what?
3C looks 'obvious' but considering most 5 counts will give you a likely 3N, its a big underbid. An old fashioned 4♣ is a good description too, but its probably conventional.
Hearts also look to be 5=5=3=0 or 5450 around the table, so its likely pard has a stop - perhaps a slow one.
Over 4N, pard tries 4N. Wow - as a passed hand....
Now what?
I think the inference about the hearts is not that strong, partner passed vul against not in second seat. There are lots of hands with 6 or 7 hearts he could hold that don't qualify for a preempt under those conditions. That is the factor that makes me dislike 3NT, as absent that consideration and the risk of partner trying to take me to hearts I like the bid.
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Posted 2007-August-22, 17:39
I like 3N. It's the normal bid with running clubs and a single diamond stopper, so partner should have good reasons to put me in 4H instead. In fact, is he really less likely to pull to 4H after 3C 3H 3N? This is a normal bid with a non-running club suit and a single diamond stopper, which makes it more attractive to pull.
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Posted 2007-August-22, 18:53
Josh if partner is correcting 3N to 4H with a bad heart suit he is a novice. There is a reason that you didn't X first.
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Posted 2007-August-23, 01:26
If I bid 3NT and partner bid 4NT?
My first instict is to bid 5♣, but I don't have the hand he will expect for that.
Between pass and 6♣ its a blind guess, he can have ♥KJx or ♥AKx wich is totally different I think there are more hands wich fail to 6♣ than those wich makes.
So I pass.
My first instict is to bid 5♣, but I don't have the hand he will expect for that.
Between pass and 6♣ its a blind guess, he can have ♥KJx or ♥AKx wich is totally different I think there are more hands wich fail to 6♣ than those wich makes.
So I pass.
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Posted 2007-August-23, 02:42
I had been in the minority camp which bid 3 NT and I am in the even smaller minority and bid 6 Club after 4 NT.
Okay this may not make but maybe it is not worse then 4 NT.
Okay this may not make but maybe it is not worse then 4 NT.
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Posted 2007-August-23, 02:45
Codo, on Aug 23 2007, 08:42 AM, said:
Okay this may not make but maybe it is not worse then 4 NT.
Maybe 5♣ is good enough then?
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Posted 2007-August-23, 02:55
maybe
Like you said it is a gamble- and I am optimistic today.
Like you said it is a gamble- and I am optimistic today.
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Posted 2007-August-23, 03:09
I'm bidding 3NT.
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