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While the uncontested auction 2C - 2D - 2NT is passable, as is 2C - 2D - 2NT - 3D - 3H passable, we were both certain at the table (and agreed afterwards) that we should play opener's 2NT rebid as game forcing and live with the consequences.
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Posted 2007-August-22, 05:48
FrancesHinden, on Aug 22 2007, 03:00 AM, said:
While the uncontested auction 2C - 2D - 2NT is passable, as is 2C - 2D - 2NT - 3D - 3H passable, we were both certain at the table (and agreed afterwards) that we should play opener's 2NT rebid as game forcing and live with the consequences.
I believe, as well, that this is the best decision.
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Posted 2007-August-27, 10:58
The voting seems to be fairly evenly split between moving and passing. Interestingly most of the movers are driving slam opposite the HA.
As it happens I held the hand opposite, not this one. My partner, who held this hand, said he was pretty confident I held the queen of spades as I didn't have a good heart suit and the opponents seemed to have the minor minors. He bid a slam after checking I had the ace of hearts.
Also as it happens there is no definitive answer....
Partner has
Q98
AJxxx
Jx
xxx
6H on a diamond lead needs hearts 3-2 plus the hand with three hearts having three or more spades. Given the double of 2C implying 5 or 6 clubs, I made that 51% i.e. just about with the odds but nothing to write home about.
Partner correctly pointed out that I could, just, have been 2524 or 2533 or even 26(23) when slam is much better.
6NT - Ken's choice - is pretty much straight out on the heart finesse. Once that holds, you have the obvious heart/club squeeze. Again, given 5/6 clubs on the left, I made that about 45% so it's worse than 6H.
However, both 6NT and 6S are making, whilst our selection of 6H went off. (LHO is 0436).
As it happens I held the hand opposite, not this one. My partner, who held this hand, said he was pretty confident I held the queen of spades as I didn't have a good heart suit and the opponents seemed to have the minor minors. He bid a slam after checking I had the ace of hearts.
Also as it happens there is no definitive answer....
Partner has
Q98
AJxxx
Jx
xxx
6H on a diamond lead needs hearts 3-2 plus the hand with three hearts having three or more spades. Given the double of 2C implying 5 or 6 clubs, I made that 51% i.e. just about with the odds but nothing to write home about.
Partner correctly pointed out that I could, just, have been 2524 or 2533 or even 26(23) when slam is much better.
6NT - Ken's choice - is pretty much straight out on the heart finesse. Once that holds, you have the obvious heart/club squeeze. Again, given 5/6 clubs on the left, I made that about 45% so it's worse than 6H.
However, both 6NT and 6S are making, whilst our selection of 6H went off. (LHO is 0436).
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Posted 2007-August-31, 01:32
Im wondering why you didint showed a positive with an A + Q + 2 J.
You probably shouldnt make a slam try with xxx in clubs since you know that finesse are probably off (clubs and the j of ♦ are in front of the X`s the missing H or S are likely to be LHO because of the clubs lenght in RHO you also doesnt have the H T or 9.
At my table we might play 2♣ XX going down yurk. Or 6♠ making if we duck the diamonds at trick 1.
You probably shouldnt make a slam try with xxx in clubs since you know that finesse are probably off (clubs and the j of ♦ are in front of the X`s the missing H or S are likely to be LHO because of the clubs lenght in RHO you also doesnt have the H T or 9.
At my table we might play 2♣ XX going down yurk. Or 6♠ making if we duck the diamonds at trick 1.
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Posted 2007-August-31, 02:13
benlessard, on Aug 31 2007, 08:32 AM, said:
Im wondering why you didint showed a positive with an A + Q + 2 J.
Because I didn't want to declare hearts with a club lead coming through at trick one.
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Posted 2007-August-31, 09:29
If you play that the initial pass showed a negative then i guess a 2♦ bid is waiting with some values ?
On a side note
A popular system after a 2♣ opening in Canada is
2D =waiting but GF
2♥= double neg 0-2 pts
2♠ = positive with ♥ (KQxxx or better)
2NT = positive with ♠ (KQxxx or better)
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Would you pass if partner redouble ?
On a side note
A popular system after a 2♣ opening in Canada is
2D =waiting but GF
2♥= double neg 0-2 pts
2♠ = positive with ♥ (KQxxx or better)
2NT = positive with ♠ (KQxxx or better)
PS
Would you pass if partner redouble ?
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For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
Bottom line is we never let that difference of opinion interfere with anything."
For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
Bottom line is we never let that difference of opinion interfere with anything."
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Posted 2007-August-31, 09:38
A 2D bid over the double would show diamonds.
p.s. if partner redoubled I would have passed (very) content.
p.s. if partner redoubled I would have passed (very) content.