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Do you make a trap pass here or bid (say 2♦ or any other)?
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Posted 2007-August-19, 08:00
(This was actually my p's situation)
you play neg dbls
Do you make a trap pass here or bid (say 2♦ or any other)?
you play neg dbls
Do you make a trap pass here or bid (say 2♦ or any other)?
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Posted 2007-August-19, 08:27
Edited, misread auction.
1NT.
Peter
1NT.
Peter
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Posted 2007-August-19, 08:31
I think this is quite a nasty problem. Pass is a reasonable choice, as is either 1NT or 2NT. Not sure why you suggest 2D as a possibility, that would never occur to me, and having occurred to me I would never bid that. I think in the end I would pass, provided I can do it in tempo. May well hitch first though, which buggers it a bit.
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Psyche (pron. sahy-kee): The human soul, spirit or mind (derived, personification thereof, beloved of Eros, Greek myth).
Masterminding (pron. m
str-mnding) tr. v. - Any bid made by bridge player with which partner disagrees."Gentlemen, when the barrage lifts." 9th battalion, King's own Yorkshire light infantry,
2000 years earlier: "morituri te salutant"
"I will be with you, whatever". Blair to Bush, precursor to invasion of Iraq
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Posted 2007-August-19, 08:37
1NT.
Being red vs green I am not really
interested in going after 1H.
With kind regards
Marlowe
Being red vs green I am not really
interested in going after 1H.
With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
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Posted 2007-August-19, 08:40
P_Marlowe, on Aug 19 2007, 03:37 PM, said:
1NT.
Being red vs green I am not really
interested in going after 1H.
With kind regards
Marlowe
Being red vs green I am not really
interested in going after 1H.
With kind regards
Marlowe
Have some sympathy with that viewpoint. But you are not certain to end in game your way, which is the only time that your own vulnerability features in the decision.
Psych (pron. saik): A gross and deliberate misstatement of honour strength and/or suit length. Expressly permitted under Law 73E but forbidden contrary to that law by Acol club tourneys.
Psyche (pron. sahy-kee): The human soul, spirit or mind (derived, personification thereof, beloved of Eros, Greek myth).
Masterminding (pron. mstr-mnding) tr. v. - Any bid made by bridge player with which partner disagrees.
"Gentlemen, when the barrage lifts." 9th battalion, King's own Yorkshire light infantry,
2000 years earlier: "morituri te salutant"
"I will be with you, whatever". Blair to Bush, precursor to invasion of Iraq
Psyche (pron. sahy-kee): The human soul, spirit or mind (derived, personification thereof, beloved of Eros, Greek myth).
Masterminding (pron. m
str-mnding) tr. v. - Any bid made by bridge player with which partner disagrees."Gentlemen, when the barrage lifts." 9th battalion, King's own Yorkshire light infantry,
2000 years earlier: "morituri te salutant"
"I will be with you, whatever". Blair to Bush, precursor to invasion of Iraq
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Posted 2007-August-19, 08:50
Looks like a normal 1N to me.
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Posted 2007-August-19, 09:02
cherdano, on Aug 19 2007, 04:50 PM, said:
Looks like a normal 1N to me.
Agree.
Passing could be right, but I's prefer to have the ♥T to go for penalty. Only 1 down (or even a make) is a distinct possibility. And I don't think +100 is good enough.
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Harald
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Posted 2007-August-19, 12:41
1NT. Nothing else really occurs to me...
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Posted 2007-August-19, 13:49
1NT. Pass is another option but 2♦ is not.
Please let me know about any questions or interest or bug reports about GIB.
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Posted 2007-August-19, 16:42
1NT. The H are not good enough by quite a long way for a trap pass at the one level.
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Posted 2007-August-19, 19:20
Agree with the 1nt comments.
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Posted 2007-August-19, 19:47
The heart spots are of course great for defending but I think I would also bid a mundane 1NT.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2007-August-19, 19:52
Hannie, on Aug 19 2007, 08:47 PM, said:
The heart spots are of course great for defending but I think I would also bid a mundane 1NT.
I would have thought it was a mundane pass until I read the other answers.
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Posted 2007-August-19, 19:54
Well, this is an interesting hand to me, could you explain why you think pass is better?
I understand that the hand is really not that good on offense, but I'm worried that I won't be able to show the strength of my hand on some follow-up auctions.
I understand that the hand is really not that good on offense, but I'm worried that I won't be able to show the strength of my hand on some follow-up auctions.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2007-August-20, 00:05
Hannie, on Aug 20 2007, 02:54 AM, said:
I'm worried that I won't be able to show the strength of my hand on some follow-up auctions.
That is to my mind the strongest argument for bidding NT. Not the fear of missing a vulnerable game, and not the fear that 1HX might make, but the fear that you may not get a chance to pass a 1HX to show your hand. Not sure why 2NT is dismissed out of hand. Sure, it may be a level too high, but by the same token 1NT may miss game. And being a passed hand, 2NT is not going to be misinterpreted as showing more. I am not saying that I am heavily in favour of 2NT, but I don't see it as that bad either.
Psych (pron. saik): A gross and deliberate misstatement of honour strength and/or suit length. Expressly permitted under Law 73E but forbidden contrary to that law by Acol club tourneys.
Psyche (pron. sahy-kee): The human soul, spirit or mind (derived, personification thereof, beloved of Eros, Greek myth).
Masterminding (pron. mstr-mnding) tr. v. - Any bid made by bridge player with which partner disagrees.
"Gentlemen, when the barrage lifts." 9th battalion, King's own Yorkshire light infantry,
2000 years earlier: "morituri te salutant"
"I will be with you, whatever". Blair to Bush, precursor to invasion of Iraq
Psyche (pron. sahy-kee): The human soul, spirit or mind (derived, personification thereof, beloved of Eros, Greek myth).
Masterminding (pron. m
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2000 years earlier: "morituri te salutant"
"I will be with you, whatever". Blair to Bush, precursor to invasion of Iraq
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Posted 2007-August-20, 06:47
1NT for me.
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Posted 2007-August-25, 03:36
The full hand, and what actually happened.
Thx all for ur opinion
Scoring: IMP
W N E S
- - P 1♣
1♥ P 1♠ 3♣
3♠ 5♣ P P
P
lead ♠6
5♣S=
W N E S
- - P 1♣
1♥ P 1♠ 3♣
3♠ 5♣ P P
P
lead ♠6
5♣S=
Thx all for ur opinion
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Posted 2007-August-25, 20:57
I am also in the 1NT camp. This is a routine 10 HCP hand, nothing special about it to make me want to push it to 2NT, but with 10 HCP I am accepting any invite PD makes.
If the opps were vul, I might pass and try to go after 1♥ but then I may have to guess if they run to ♠ and PD doesn't double them.
.. neilkaz ..
If the opps were vul, I might pass and try to go after 1♥ but then I may have to guess if they run to ♠ and PD doesn't double them.
.. neilkaz ..
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Posted 2007-August-25, 21:39
1N is kind of obvious. Pass could work of course, but the hands I really want to defend 1♥ is when pard can't reopen.
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