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#1 User is offline   kgr 

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Posted 2007-August-21, 15:24

MP's; W/-
You hold:
T96
A
Jxx
AQT9xx
And the bidding goes:
(1C)-DBL-(P)-??
What do you bid? (1C opening can be a 2-card, opps open 5=5=4=2)
 
If you pass:
- Is there any club holding that could change your bid?
????xx
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Posted 2007-August-21, 16:04

umm...I'll bite I consider this an automatic pass...
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Posted 2007-August-21, 16:50

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umm...I'll bite I consider this an automatic pass...


Ditto.

With the cards in the other suits the same I would still pass with 765432 in clubs.

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Posted 2007-August-21, 17:46

It depends.

If I'm playing normal bridge, I pass.

However, in the Xango System, I'm allowed to redouble this. If playing Xango, then, my call is redouble.

"Is there any club holding that could change your mind?" (????xx)

Yes. If all of the question marks are spades, I won't pass. However, if my hand is 1096 A Jxx 7654xx, I'll still pass. They might not go down, but I dislike my other options.
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Posted 2007-August-21, 17:53

I would not pass with 7 sixth fwiw
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Posted 2007-August-22, 14:08

This is an automatic pass, wtp?
Agree with Justin - I don't pass with 765432. A65432 I might pass though, but that's not absolutely clear.
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Posted 2007-August-22, 14:20

kenrexford, on Aug 21 2007, 06:46 PM, said:

if my hand is 1096 A Jxx 7654xx

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Posted 2007-August-23, 01:12

I will think I... Pass.
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Posted 2007-August-23, 02:14

kenrexford, on Aug 21 2007, 11:46 PM, said:

Yes. If all of the question marks are spades, I won't pass. However, if my hand is 1096 A Jxx 7654xx, I'll still pass. They might not go down, but I dislike my other options.

When I was starting I remember passing a hand similar to this.

Father used an anecdote form a real hand in the european teams championsip to show me it was wrong, on both table sit started 1-X-ps , one player bid 1with Jxx the other passed (Jxxxxx). Results were +1390 and +300.

I don't even think of passing since :).
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Posted 2007-August-23, 03:08

The posted hand is a pass. This hand is definitely NOT a pass:
♠1096 ♥A DJxx ♣7654xx
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Posted 2007-August-23, 05:11

Pass. My only concern is when my partner leads a diamond, heart or spade, because then he is void in clubs.

A trump lead is mandatory regardless of the holding because advancer has shown a strong suit by passing - a suit that can stand a lead. We don't want declarer to score low trumps.

This answers the second question. My trump suit is long and strong when I pass a low-level take-out double.

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Posted 2007-August-23, 05:32

This is matchpoints, right? I'm sure no one cares whether the bottom result is for -140 or -1390, right?
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Posted 2007-August-23, 06:56

Walddk, on Aug 23 2007, 11:11 AM, said:

Pass. My only concern is when my partner leads a diamond, heart or spade, because then he is void in clubs.

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Posted 2007-August-24, 11:29

Jlall, on Aug 21 2007, 06:53 PM, said:

I would not pass with 7 sixth fwiw

Neither would I, but the hand given is an auto-pass.
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