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Bidding Problem 2 How high should you bid?

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Posted 2007-August-09, 07:29

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Setting: Important event,10 boards,Winner takes the first place.
Bidding:
p-p-1-p
3-3NT-p-?


1 is restricted to 15; 3 is fit jump;
What to do?
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Posted 2007-August-09, 07:38

This is strange, we high cards are roughly split, we have a huge double fit and likely so do they, yet RHO passed over 3NT.

I suspect that we can take exactly 10 tricks but I'm still bidding 5C because (1) we might just make it, and (2) there is a good chance that RHO would bid over 4C, and I don't like that.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2007-August-09, 07:49

5.

Partner, as a passed hand, would not be entering the auction here with 5-5 with mediocre minor suits. He must be 6-5 with something like:

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KJxxxx
AQxxx

Obviously, it is not clear which is his 6-card suit, although given that I hold the AQ of diamonds, I suspect that diamonds is his 6-card suit.

The tougher question is what do you do if the opps bid 5 or 5? I would bid one more. Slam might even make if partner is 2-0 in the majors and they lead the wrong one. It could even be cold if partner is void in hearts.

It is also possible that partner is 6-6, in which case slam is cold. But I am not playing him for 6-6.
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Posted 2007-August-09, 07:49

5C for me too.

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Posted 2007-August-09, 08:55

5.

I'm letting them play 5M. We did our job.
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Posted 2007-August-09, 08:59

Gotta agree with the panel so far. Make the bid after which we don't know what their right move is. Obviously if I bid 4 they will correctly bid on, and if I bid 6 they will correctly Dbl me.

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Posted 2007-August-09, 09:54

5C. No soft bids from me.
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Posted 2007-August-09, 10:07

3N is extended grabbit I presume?
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Posted 2007-August-09, 10:26

Jlall, on Aug 9 2007, 05:07 PM, said:

3N is extended grabbit I presume?

Not when partner is a passed hand, then it's modified widget
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Posted 2007-August-09, 12:05

5 and stay put after that. Let them guess.
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Posted 2007-August-09, 12:18

ArtK78, on Aug 10 2007, 01:49 AM, said:

Partner, as a passed hand, would not be entering the auction here with 5-5 with mediocre minor suits. He must be 6-5 with something like:

x
x
KJxxxx
AQxxx

That looks like a mighty fine opening bid to me.
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Posted 2007-August-09, 14:24

Cascade, on Aug 9 2007, 01:18 PM, said:

ArtK78, on Aug 10 2007, 01:49 AM, said:

Partner, as a passed hand, would not be entering the auction here with 5-5 with mediocre minor suits.  He must be 6-5 with something like:

x
x
KJxxxx
AQxxx

That looks like a mighty fine opening bid to me.

It does, doesn't it? But, then again, partner did enter the auction with 3NT. So maybe he decided that the best way to show his hand was to back into the auction.

I have seen stranger things at the bridge table.
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Posted 2007-August-10, 09:56

FrancesHinden, on Aug 9 2007, 11:26 AM, said:

Jlall, on Aug 9 2007, 05:07 PM, said:

3N is extended grabbit I presume?

Not when partner is a passed hand, then it's modified widget

Grabbit ?Modified widget?Minors we call it. :lol:
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