[jdonn]

jtfanclub, on Aug 12 2007, 08:54 PM, said:

What are you hoping dummy has? Suppose LHO has....

♠J732
♥AQ965
♦AJ2
♣2


and he let you peek before you led. Would you say 'I'm going to lead a club so I can tap dummy"?

Lol at least give a good example for your cause. First of all if that is dummy then after a club lead declarer will probably get to either set up hearts or get back to his hand with heart ruffs, IF you don't tell him they aren't breaking. Secondly if you can see that dummy you would probably lead a diamond, to set up any tricks there before declarer can lead toward KQ of clubs or whatever to get discards. It still seems clear that the absolute worse thing to do on this hand would be to tell declarer not to take a heart finesse.

By the way, who says a club lead is aggressive? It seems to have an extremely low chance of blowing a trick in clubs, in fact in my last post I made clear I was choosing a club because it's NOT aggressive. A diamond (or inconceivable trump) is the only aggressive lead. You start off your rant by complaining that the logic of your choice is being misunderstood, then misunderstand yourself the logic of the other choice.

[han]

I had a hard time picking between a diamond and a club. I chose a diamond because it seemed more likely that our diamond tricks were going away on the clubs then the other way around. However, Josh could easily be right that there is no need for an aggressive lead.

[jtfanclub]

jdonn, on Aug 13 2007, 12:51 AM, said:

You start off your rant by complaining that the logic of your choice is being misunderstood, then misunderstand yourself the logic of the other choice.

Yep, well, communication online is tough.

I did misunderstand the logic behind the club lead, and misunderstood it badly enough that I didn't understand that I'd misunderstood it.

Thanks for clearing it up.

[ralph23]

mike777, on Aug 12 2007, 08:57 PM, said:

"But can somebody tell me why this auction and hand calls for an aggressive lead? "


I assume 95%+ contracts call for an aggressive lead. See no reason why this hand is the rare exception?

I think 95% is way way way too high.

I don't know the statistics (nb-- 74.8% of all bridge statistics are just made up, including this one about the 74.8%) ....but my experience tells me that passive is right around 50% or the time, and possibly (or maybe probaby) more.

So much depends on the bidding: Is dummy coming down with a powerhouse side suit? Or did they just flop around and finally end up barely bidding a game? It is a grand slam? A small slam? A partscore? Did my partner say anything? Is partner broke and I have all the Quacks?

BTW, I led a club too in this problem, and I didn't do it because I thought it was aggressive.

I thought a ♦ was considerably more aggressive. I did it because the rules of bridge say "You have to lead" and I sure didn't want to lead one of the other three suits, so a club won out, but I wasn't particularly proud of it.