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Competivie slam? auction

Poll: Your call: (24 member(s) have cast votes)

Your call:

  1. Pass (3 votes [12.50%])

    Percentage of vote: 12.50%

  2. Double (1 votes [4.17%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.17%

  3. 5 Hearts (2 votes [8.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.33%

  4. 6 Clubs (18 votes [75.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 75.00%

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#1 User is offline   cherdano 

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Posted 2007-August-08, 16:08

Partnering the best bidder in the world, you pick up:
Scoring: IMP

(P) 1 (1) 1
(2) X* (2) 3
(3) 4 (5) ?

Expert opponents. Double showed 3 hearts.
It seems you have the most balanced hand at the table, but what do you do?
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Posted 2007-August-08, 16:12

Pass
This is a dead minimum for my previous bidding. 3clubs rather than good/bad 2nt
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Posted 2007-August-08, 16:28

6C, because it feels right.

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Posted 2007-August-08, 16:33

mike777, on Aug 8 2007, 04:12 PM, said:

Pass
This is a dead minimum for my previous bidding. 3clubs rather than good/bad 2nt

You don't play good bad. If you think you have a dead minimum, you should double anyway, as pass is forcing.
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Posted 2007-August-08, 16:35

6C and high five the monitor as you are about make a SLAM yo!!!!!!!!!
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Posted 2007-August-08, 16:40

Looks like a bid one more hand. Could be one of those magic 23 point fitters.
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Posted 2007-August-08, 16:41

In all seriousness this should be a question of investigating 7 or not since it could easily be cold, anyone who defends 5D X or attempts to is really missing the boat. If the opps bid 6D and pard passes I will insta bid 7, and if RHO bids 6D I will insta pass. I think I'm happier in 6C than defending 7D X so lets just buy it as cheap as possible and/or get to 7 with the least certainty possible.
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Posted 2007-August-08, 16:43

Double-fitter, useful side shortages, wtp?

6 obvio.
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  Posted 2007-August-08, 16:45

6C, and prepare the celebrations.

You hold the best diamond holding to accept a slam try coupled with above average trumps and length. In addition you have a stiff in the spade suit which upgrades.
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Posted 2007-August-08, 16:54

cherdano, on Aug 8 2007, 05:33 PM, said:

mike777, on Aug 8 2007, 04:12 PM, said:

Pass
This is a dead minimum for my previous bidding. 3clubs rather than good/bad 2nt

You don't play good bad. If you think you have a dead minimum, you should double anyway, as pass is forcing.

I do not x..for all I know 5d is making, prefer to pass and slow things down. Partner is allowed to bid again.
3c shows:
5 clubs, check
12 support pts, check
4 hearts, check
Pass of 5d shows:
forcing, partner made a slam try and I show few if any hcp in diamonds. minimum hand for previous bidding. I got 12 support points somewhere, maybe in my bid suits?
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Posted 2007-August-08, 17:13

Partner showed why he is the best bidder in the world on this hand too :)

Jlall, on Aug 8 2007, 05:41 PM, said:

In all seriousness this should be a question of investigating 7 or not since it could easily be cold, anyone who defends 5D X or attempts to is really missing the boat. If the opps bid 6D and pard passes I will insta bid 7, and if RHO bids 6D I will insta pass. I think I'm happier in 6C than defending 7D X so lets just buy it as cheap as possible and/or get to 7 with the least certainty possible.

Just for curiosity sake. Can you give an example of a hand that would bid the same as this one, including the 6 you chose, then double a 6 bid on the right?
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Posted 2007-August-08, 18:50

I voted pass but suddenly realize that there is not hand p can have that doesn't make 6 . Still happy to have passed though since when I pass and pull, p may bid 7 when it's right :)
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Posted 2007-August-08, 19:01

jdonn, on Aug 8 2007, 06:13 PM, said:

Just for curiosity sake. Can you give an example of a hand that would bid the same as this one, including the 6 you chose, then double a 6 bid on the right?

same hand no HQ? xx AKxx xx QJxxx. Dunno, just off the top of my head.
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Posted 2007-August-08, 19:29

Echognome, on Aug 8 2007, 04:43 PM, said:

Double-fitter, useful side shortages, wtp?

6 obvio.

Tp is that we might make 7, that opponents might save, that we might wonder whether we want them to save or not, etc...
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Posted 2007-August-09, 11:48

Obviously 6 is more or less laydown. The point is how to be able to buy the contract in 6 or 7. I'll try 6 now and make a forcing pass over 6 by RHO, bid 7 after 6 (6) p (p) and sit for any double by partner.
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Posted 2007-August-09, 12:10

At the table I thought 6 wtp, as many posters. RHO bid 6, which I doubled, but later it seemed to me I had definitely underbid my hands.
Justin and Harald seem to agree with that, and as usual they have it right. However, partner pulled to 7 (?), LHO competes to 7 partner doubles, all pass:


How do you like the contract? Well, RHO almost certainly has 4 spades and 7 diamonds; if he is 4270 you get 1100, if he is 4171 you get 1400, if he is 4072 you get 300 (obviously you lead a spade). He was 1471, so we beat par by 30 points :D
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Posted 2007-August-09, 13:23

Best bidder strikes again.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2007-August-09, 13:51

Btw, I think it is the first time I ever underbid a hand with 6 working hcp opposite a 1-level opener while I made 2 free bids and raised partner to small slam.
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Posted 2007-August-09, 13:57

Your underbidding is already quite rare. :D
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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