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Poll: What bid do You choose? (32 member(s) have cast votes)

What bid do You choose?

  1. 2 Spades (3 votes [9.38%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.38%

  2. 3 Spades (14 votes [43.75%])

    Percentage of vote: 43.75%

  3. 4 Spades (15 votes [46.88%])

    Percentage of vote: 46.88%

  4. 5 Spades (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. 6 Spades (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  6. PASS (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  7. other (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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Posted 2007-August-07, 09:35

Scoring: MP

W N E S
1♥P2♣ ?

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Posted 2007-August-07, 09:41

I would lowball it with 3S because I have Jxx of hearts so there is a strong chance that I won't need to save over 4H, and if we do then partner will have some heart shortness and may save himself once I have bid 3S. I also have good enough D vs 3N, and if partner has short spades then I have good D vs 4H.
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Posted 2007-August-07, 09:42

Yes to 3S, although the ccolors make 4S very tempting.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2007-August-07, 09:49

3♠ looks like a nice pressure bid here.
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Posted 2007-August-07, 10:21

4S

I don't like leaving each opponent a potentially comfortable bid at the four level, as well as the 3NT option, and as well as value doubles of whatever kind they play.

Let them guess.
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Posted 2007-August-07, 10:38

I'll also go with 3♠. I'm not yet sure what I'm preempting, so there's no need to give them an easy double.
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Posted 2007-August-07, 10:49

4♠.

I don't know who can make what, but I know I am making a lot of tricks in spades.

Let the guessing begin!
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  Posted 2007-August-07, 10:58

3S for me. The J-x-x of hearts is a downer. 4S maybe white on red depending on opps' quality.
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Posted 2007-August-07, 11:10

keylime, on Aug 7 2007, 11:58 AM, said:

3S for me. The J-x-x of hearts is a downer. 4S maybe white on red depending on opps' quality.

We are white on red?
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Posted 2007-August-07, 11:38

Apollo81, on Aug 7 2007, 11:38 AM, said:

I'll also go with 3♠. I'm not yet sure what I'm preempting, so there's no need to give them an easy double.

Assuming the opponents are reasonably competent, aren't they usually already in a game forcing auction?

Who cares what we are preempting, bid 4♠. If we only bid 3, we can be fairly certain that they likely have a club fit and can now show it (4♣) or cue it (4♠) on their way to wherever they are going. I even think it's quite likely 6♣ is making.

By bidding 4S directly, we take both of these options off the table for the opponents and may get left to play 4S doubled. If not, 5♣ now by LHO may leave RHO guessing whether to move on or not, since the 5C bid is made under extreme pressure.

I just don't see a whole lot of pressure being applied by the mundane 3S call, which does nothing but leave the opponents with a variety of options to continue describing their hands.

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Posted 2007-August-07, 11:49

bid_em_up, on Aug 7 2007, 06:38 PM, said:

Apollo81, on Aug 7 2007, 11:38 AM, said:

I'll also go with 3♠.  I'm not yet sure what I'm preempting, so there's no need to give them an easy double.

Assuming the opponents are reasonably competent, aren't they usually already in a game forcing auction?

I was just thinking something slightly different but along the same lines.

Playing at my local club, where Acol-style light 2/1s are popular, I would bid 2S because I am too strong to make a pre-emptive bid: LHO could have an 11-count and RHO an 8-count.

If 2C was standard american style I would bid either 2S or 3S depending on my mood. I'm still a bit worried about missing a cold game by bidding 3S, and about getting too high opposite nothing by bidding 4S.

If 2C was game forcing I would bid 4S.
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Posted 2007-August-07, 12:03

bid_em_up, on Aug 7 2007, 01:38 PM, said:

Apollo81, on Aug 7 2007, 11:38 AM, said:

I'll also go with 3♠.  I'm not yet sure what I'm preempting, so there's no need to give them an easy double.

Assuming the opponents are reasonably competent, aren't they usually already in a game forcing auction?

Who cares what we are preempting,

The opponents may rest in 3NT or 4m. In either of these cases I'm not sure I want to unilaterally bid 4♠ by myself.
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Posted 2007-August-07, 14:59

I like 3, to leave room for someone with a spade stopper to bid 3NT which I seem to have a good chance of beating.
Please let me know about any questions or interest or bug reports about GIB.
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Posted 2007-August-07, 16:48

asc, on Aug 7 2007, 10:35 AM, said:

Scoring: MP

W N E S
1♥P2♣ ?

3S down the middle

Very interesting problem.
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Posted 2007-August-08, 03:38

to misquote Deb's former profile, "I like 4♠ as a 4th seat intervention".
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Posted 2007-August-09, 07:09

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The bidding on my table:
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1♥P4♥5♠
P P 6♥All Pass

The bidding on my frend's table:
W N E S
1♥P2♣2♠
3♣3♠5♥P
P P


Anyway I new that the bid 4♥ is usually strong, and my Partner (I was almost sure) will pass my 5♠. We played individual-and nobody knows the level of the other 3 players. My result 6♥ -1= 77%, my frend's result 5♥ +1 -680= 0%.
Now I realize that after ♣ lead the defence can take 3 tricks on ♥ contract
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Posted 2007-August-10, 14:56


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