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Beware of distributional hands!
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Posted 2007-July-31, 01:09
West North East South
- - Pass 1♦
4♥ Pass Pass 5♦
Dbl Pass Pass Pass
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Posted 2007-July-31, 02:36
Why did North pass the second time? 
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Posted 2007-July-31, 03:05
Looks perfectly normal to me... South's brave decision was redeemed.
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Posted 2007-July-31, 04:16
I would have bid 5♥ as East but if the agreement is that 4♥ followed by a double can show something like what West has, East's pass is normal. So no blame, just an accident. I think W has either a 1♥ overcall followed by spades or a double followed by hearts.
Btw I think I would have passed as South.
Btw I think I would have passed as South.
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Posted 2007-July-31, 04:19
It doesn't seem normal to bid 5♦. It should be North who bid it (or N bids 4NT?).
wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:
Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.
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Posted 2007-July-31, 05:50
Normal?
West has almost a strong two bid and bid the hand like he had nine hearts to the KQJ and a side ace.
To me, the double of 5D says "I bid 4H to make, pard - it was not a purely distributional preempt." It should not mean that he can beat 5D. With that understanding, East should bid 5H. But, looking at West's hand, while he probably expected to make 4H, that is not what he intended his double to mean. What he meant was "Sorry, pard, I bid a power hand like a distributional hand, and they are not making 5D." East got the message, although the result was silly.
For West not to double the first time set up a disaster that came home to roost in 5Dx.
If West doubles the first time, East bids spades. Now West will never defend a diamond contract by NS.
It is unfortunate that EW is likely to loser 4 tricks in hearts or spades. But that is better than letting your opps score 12 in diamonds.
I don't see any rational way to let the opps play in 5D undoubled. Perhaps EW will be allowed to play at the 5 level.
West has almost a strong two bid and bid the hand like he had nine hearts to the KQJ and a side ace.
To me, the double of 5D says "I bid 4H to make, pard - it was not a purely distributional preempt." It should not mean that he can beat 5D. With that understanding, East should bid 5H. But, looking at West's hand, while he probably expected to make 4H, that is not what he intended his double to mean. What he meant was "Sorry, pard, I bid a power hand like a distributional hand, and they are not making 5D." East got the message, although the result was silly.
For West not to double the first time set up a disaster that came home to roost in 5Dx.
If West doubles the first time, East bids spades. Now West will never defend a diamond contract by NS.
It is unfortunate that EW is likely to loser 4 tricks in hearts or spades. But that is better than letting your opps score 12 in diamonds.
I don't see any rational way to let the opps play in 5D undoubled. Perhaps EW will be allowed to play at the 5 level.
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Posted 2007-July-31, 10:28
Free, on Jul 31 2007, 02:36 AM, said:
Why did North pass the second time?
Are you sure you are talking of North? He has a clear-cut pass IMO...
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Posted 2007-July-31, 10:40
Anyone who thinks that NS did something wrong here has at least temporarily lost their marbles.
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Posted 2007-July-31, 10:51
4♥ was a weird bid and begging to miss a slam, but given how the auction went west got to describe his hand reasonably well. East had no business passing the double. NS were normal.
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Posted 2007-July-31, 12:37
Ditto Josh's comments. Double of 5D is showing extras and good playing strength and is competitive, not penalty.
I had a hand about a year ago against Jeff Roman and a client that went like this:
(2S) 4H (4S) P P X all pass for a great score. His hand was very close to this hand type minus the spades; i.e. a great hand that wanted to compete.
I had a hand about a year ago against Jeff Roman and a client that went like this:
(2S) 4H (4S) P P X all pass for a great score. His hand was very close to this hand type minus the spades; i.e. a great hand that wanted to compete.
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