BBO Discussion Forums: Your play .... - BBO Discussion Forums

Jump to content

Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

Your play ....

#1 User is offline   ralph23 

  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Full Members
  • Posts: 701
  • Joined: 2007-July-11

Posted 2007-July-29, 09:00

♣♦♥♠

Scoring: IMP

South opens 2NT, showing 20-21 balanced. North bids 3♥ as a transfer and South bids 3♠. North bids 3NT, ending the auction.


You open with your fourth-best ♥ and partner plays the Jack, declarer playing small.

Partner returns the Queen of ♥, and declarer plays the 9.

Just in case partner had a doubleton heart, you overtake with your King of ♥ (as you can afford to do), and return the ♥ ten. Partner, bless him, follows suit with the 7 and declarer takes his Ace of ♥ perforce.

Declarer now leads the 6 of ♠ and it's your play. What is your defense? Why?

Adv & Exp pls hide your answers.
♣♦♥♠ Philosophy consists very largely of one philosopher arguing that other philosophers are all jackasses. He usually proves it, and I should add that he also usually proves that he is one himself. H.L. Mencken. ♣♦♥♠
0

#2 User is offline   jtfanclub 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 3,937
  • Joined: 2004-June-05

Posted 2007-July-29, 12:26

I know where you're going with this.

Spoiler

0

#3 User is offline   Trumpace 

  • Hideous Rabbit
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 1,040
  • Joined: 2005-January-22
  • Gender:Male

Posted 2007-July-29, 20:36

hidden..
Spoiler
...
0

#4 User is offline   Quantumcat 

  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Full Members
  • Posts: 944
  • Joined: 2007-April-11
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Bathurst, Australia
  • Interests:Archery, classical guitar, piano, watercolour painting, programming, french

Posted 2007-July-29, 21:54

Obviously you have to play the king, but why?

Declarer must have 2 spades or he would have bid 4♠. Partner probably has the jack because declarer didn't run it (should he have if he had it?) Declarer needs the spades for his contract, if he only has two then partner has three, and if you play your king the queen still won't get rid of partner's jack, but since he has only two, when he wins what partner returns he has no entries to get the spades. He has to win your king otherwise you play your hearts. If you don't play your king, he loses to partner's jack but he can finesse your king and arrive in dummy (queen, then ace takes down king) then play the rest of the spades.
I ♦ Transfers
0

#5 User is offline   jtfanclub 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 3,937
  • Joined: 2004-June-05

Posted 2007-July-29, 22:56

Quantumcat, on Jul 29 2007, 10:54 PM, said:

Partner probably has the jack because declarer didn't run it (should he have if he had it?)

Doesn't matter if he has it or not. Declarer can always play the ten now, get back to his hand with a club, and play the spade jack and overtake. If you play the king now and declarer has the jack, you haven't lost anything. It's not like you're going to develop a trick in clubs.
0

#6 User is offline   ralph23 

  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Full Members
  • Posts: 701
  • Joined: 2007-July-11

Posted 2007-July-30, 06:59

Quantumcat, on Jul 29 2007, 10:54 PM, said:

Obviously you have to play the king, but why?

Declarer must have 2 spades or he would have bid 4♠. Partner probably has the jack because declarer didn't run it (should he have if he had it?) Declarer needs the spades for his contract, if he only has two then partner has three, and if you play your king the queen still won't get rid of partner's jack, but since he has only two, when he wins what partner returns he has no entries to get the spades. He has to win your king otherwise you play your hearts. If you don't play your king, he loses to partner's jack but he can finesse your king and arrive in dummy (queen, then ace takes down king) then play the rest of the spades.

Great reasoning and of course right ! I will show you all four hands later but your thinking was right on the mark.
♣♦♥♠ Philosophy consists very largely of one philosopher arguing that other philosophers are all jackasses. He usually proves it, and I should add that he also usually proves that he is one himself. H.L. Mencken. ♣♦♥♠
0

#7 User is offline   ArcLight 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 1,341
  • Joined: 2004-July-02
  • Location:Millburn, New Jersey
  • Interests:Rowing. Wargaming. Military history.

Posted 2007-July-30, 07:42

If South really has 20-21, and pard has shown up with 3 HCP, there is no room for pard to have the spade J. Dummy has 6 HCP, we have 11, pard has 3, thats 20 HCP. Declarer needs to have the rest.

I'm not saying people don't ever open "light", adding a point for length of 10's and 9's. But I wouldn't assume so.

However, if declarer has the J, then he makes the hand. So assume that he opened light (19 HCP), and pray that pard has the J.
In this case you have no alternative to assuming a < 20 HCP 2NT.
0

#8 User is offline   vuroth 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 1,459
  • Joined: 2007-June-03
  • Gender:Male

Posted 2007-July-30, 10:02

Declarer has me. Does he know it?

From the bidding, declarer only has 2 spades. If I duck, he'll return to his hand and repeat the finesse.

I'll play the 4 of spades on the first round, and the 2 of spades on the second round. Hopefully, declarer will believe me, rise with the ace, and try to find his tricks elsewhere.

V

EDIT - I completley missed that the jack was not on the board. Gah!
Still decidedly intermediate - don't take my guesses as authoritative.

"gwnn" said:

rule number 1 in efficient forum reading:
hanp does not always mean literally what he writes.
0

#9 User is offline   pclayton 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 9,151
  • Joined: 2003-June-11
  • Location:Southern California

Posted 2007-July-30, 11:11

Ralph, I think its good form to mention that many of the hands you post are straight from published works.

At least they have a 'book' feel to me.
"Phil" on BBO
0

#10 User is offline   ralph23 

  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Full Members
  • Posts: 701
  • Joined: 2007-July-11

Posted 2007-July-30, 13:15

Actually they are derivatives (the mistakes are all mine in the deriving, and I do make some) from my notes in the umpteen bridge classes I've had with several teachers. Lord knows where they got them, my guess is they probably made some up and were inspired by some published works for others. The themes are well known and well worn, in any case.
♣♦♥♠ Philosophy consists very largely of one philosopher arguing that other philosophers are all jackasses. He usually proves it, and I should add that he also usually proves that he is one himself. H.L. Mencken. ♣♦♥♠
0

Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

1 User(s) are reading this topic
0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users