[plaur]

1♣-1♥-1♠-p
?

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Pick up p. How close to 3♠ are you ?
(No agreements on 3♦, assume 4♦ is splint showing a stronger hand))

[TimG]

I'm there.

[jtfanclub]

plaur, on Jul 27 2007, 02:55 PM, said:

1♣-1♥-1♠-p
?

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Pick up p. How close to 3♠ are you ?
(No agreements on 3♦, assume 4♦ is splint showing a stronger hand))

4.5 losers. I'd bid 3 spades without the diamond queen. In fact, I'm seriously tempted to bid 4 spades....I may make if partner has 5 spades to the king and no other points. I do hate missing game.

[plaur]

How do you get to 4.5 losers ? Counting in an oldfashioned way I get to 6 (2 spade, 3 red, 1 club)
I still bid 3♠ counting on a nine card spade fit and the solid clubs. P had 4 spades KTxx and single club, but the club suit saved the day

[jtfanclub]

plaur, on Jul 27 2007, 03:22 PM, said:

How do you get to 4.5 losers ? Counting in an oldfashioned way I get to 6 (2 spade, 3 red, 1 club)

When I picked up the hand, I had six losers. Now that I know spades are trump, I count 4.5.

If partner has a doubleton club, I have no club losers (one small club gets ruffed). If partner has three clubs, I have no club losers (assume they split for LTC purposes). So there is no amount of clubs partner can have where I would count a loser in clubs.

In spades, well, I'm counting the AJ9x as half a loser. I probably shouldn't, but odds are good that, worst case scenario, we can finesse with this holding for 50% short of another trick.

[mike777]

plaur, on Jul 27 2007, 02:55 PM, said:

1♣-1♥-1♠-p
?

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Pick up p. How close to 3♠ are you ?
(No agreements on 3♦, assume 4♦ is splint showing a stronger hand))

3d

why insult pickup partner with any other bid, we just met.

[cherdano]

3S.

[kenrexford]

We have nine trumps, and I have a side 6-card suit headed by the AK. If partner has Kxxxx-xxx-xxx-xx, I really like my chances. So, I'm going to ask him to bid 4♠ with hands where six may be lay-down?

4♦ for me.