My partner opened 1 H with 6 H With K and 4 D. He only had 9 Hcp. I responded 2D with 3 card support, 4d and 13 Hcp. He then rebid 2 H. the final contract was 4 H which me made.
Was his opening bid correct?
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opening bid 6 h
#2
Posted 2007-July-25, 02:57
If you'd give us the complete hand we may be able to judge if his opening was right or not. K-Kxxxxx-xxxx-QJ is an awful holding, while x-Kxxxxx-AQxx-xx is a way better 9 pointer...
So I can't judge at the moment.
So I can't judge at the moment.
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#4
Posted 2007-July-25, 08:26
navit, on Jul 25 2007, 03:48 AM, said:
My partner opened 1 H with 6 H With K and 4 D. He only had 9 Hcp. I responded 2D with 3 card support, 4d and 13 Hcp. He then rebid 2 H. the final contract was 4 H which me made.
Was his opening bid correct?
Was his opening bid correct?
Hi,
at first glance, I would say no, but it depends
on the system you are playing and partnership
agreement.
Assuming a pickup partner, this would would
more or less imply standard american, and I
would say, that the hand is to weak for a system,
where a 2/1 bid promises another bid, assuming
you and your partner know, that a 2/1 bid promises
another bid, but it is a guess.
With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
#5
Posted 2007-July-25, 08:31
"Was his bid correct?"
That depends upon style and partnership agreements. What I can say is that I personally approve of and use a style where a 9-count 6♥/4♦ hand can be opened with a concentration of good values in the two suits.
I would not hesitate, personally, to open ♠xx ♥AQxxxx ♦Kxxx ♣x. I'd prefer a ten ot two, or some nice 8's and 9's, but I admittedly would not care that much. I also would want the Ace or King in the diamond suit; otherwise 2♥ might look more appealing.
That depends upon style and partnership agreements. What I can say is that I personally approve of and use a style where a 9-count 6♥/4♦ hand can be opened with a concentration of good values in the two suits.
I would not hesitate, personally, to open ♠xx ♥AQxxxx ♦Kxxx ♣x. I'd prefer a ten ot two, or some nice 8's and 9's, but I admittedly would not care that much. I also would want the Ace or King in the diamond suit; otherwise 2♥ might look more appealing.
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#6
Posted 2007-July-25, 09:55
Marty Bergen recomends the rule of twenty: length in the two longest suits plus HCPs must be at least twenty. Thus, 11+6+4=19 is not enough. But with the values concentrated in the two long suits and at least one ten I would open.
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#7
Posted 2007-July-25, 11:32
Was this a correct opening bid?
NO.
Much too light. I play light opening bids nonvul and this is still not a 1 bid.
I don't even understand why posters are saying "It depends upon this or that..."
If you play that an opening 1 bid in a major promises 6-10 HCP, then it is a fine opening bid. But I suspect that is not the case.
I suspect that 4H was a lucky make.
NO.
Much too light. I play light opening bids nonvul and this is still not a 1 bid.
I don't even understand why posters are saying "It depends upon this or that..."
If you play that an opening 1 bid in a major promises 6-10 HCP, then it is a fine opening bid. But I suspect that is not the case.
I suspect that 4H was a lucky make.
#8
Posted 2007-July-26, 10:01
In Nashville, third seat, I thought a 6-count was a (real, non-psychic) 1S opener. We play light, but not insanely light (decent 11) openers. The opponents didn't even blink.
Of course, the hand was AJTxx T987xx Jx --.
I've seen 9-counts that are much better than my average minimum opener - I open them. Having said that, a 9-count with a stiff K is a 6+count, and had better be a bomb.
Michael.
Of course, the hand was AJTxx T987xx Jx --.
I've seen 9-counts that are much better than my average minimum opener - I open them. Having said that, a 9-count with a stiff K is a 6+count, and had better be a bomb.
Michael.
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#9
Posted 2007-July-26, 18:39
scoob, on Jul 25 2007, 09:22 AM, said:
according to the hands database:
♠Q986 ♥K97653 ♦K ♣J8
♠Q986 ♥K97653 ♦K ♣J8
What a rubbish opening this is ! After passing and opposite your 13 HCP and 3♥ you'll likely find 4♥ anyhow.
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