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Nickell vs Clayton

#21 User is offline   jtfanclub 

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Posted 2007-July-24, 10:37

Huh. Seeding is such strange stuff!

Best of luck to your squad! If you win, do you get a T shirt?
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Posted 2007-July-24, 10:46

jtfanclub, on Jul 24 2007, 11:37 AM, said:

If you win, do you get a T shirt?

If he wins (just this next match) he gets bragging rights for about 50 years
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Posted 2007-July-24, 10:55

Regarding Dick, he will recover and does not have anything life threatening. Beyond that I don't feel like it's my place to say.

Also regarding the seeds of the 4 way matches, think of it this way.

Say seeds 44, 55, 66, and 77 were in a 4 way. 77 beat 44 and 55 beat 66, then 66 beat 77. Now 55 becomes the 44 seed, 66 becomes the 55 seed, and 77 becomes the 66 seed. This is true even though 77 beat 44.
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Posted 2007-July-24, 10:56

Good luck Phil, Arend, Han and Brian!!
With some luck you migh beat them. But don't care about that. Sit down and play like you've never done before and have a hell of a time.
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Posted 2007-July-24, 11:37

Your explanation of the seeding is probably correct. The surviving teams retain their relative order in the seeding, with the eliminated team out, no matter what sequence of matches it took to arrive at one team being eliminated.
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Posted 2007-July-24, 17:18

82-31 at the half.

We were a little tight coming and misplayed a couple of games.

The 2nd set was closer - only lost it by 12.


Having a lot of fun.....
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Posted 2007-July-24, 21:33

Phil..the experience is priceless. I hope you can post a few crucial hands.

thx .. neilkaz ..
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Posted 2007-July-25, 00:49

Go Team Clayton! (Sorry Justin, but it's 3 posters to 1 :))
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Posted 2007-July-25, 02:17

Well we lost. The 2nd half was a lot closer - they only beat us by 9 the last 32. We won the 3rd segment in spite of me blanking on a lead against a slam looking at ak tight. Really happened.

Arend and Han played fantastic and they were great teammates. I hope we can play again.

Zia's team lost to my friend David Chechelashvili's team.
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Posted 2007-July-25, 02:20

ArcLight, on Jul 24 2007, 04:09 AM, said:

Good Luck!

(What defense will you use against Meckwells 1 openers?)

NV we played 'CLASH' which is crash coupled with overcalls that mean that suit or the suit higher. It actually seemed to tax them a little.
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Posted 2007-July-25, 07:14

I searched on ACBL site, looking for results from 1/64 round, but i didn't find any. Can you give me a link? Thank you
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Posted 2007-July-25, 07:28

Edmunte1, on Jul 25 2007, 08:14 AM, said:

I searched on ACBL site, looking for results from 1/64 round, but i didn't find any. Can you give me a link? Thank you

This page should link to you results and Daily Bulletins.
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Posted 2007-July-25, 08:34

No results from 1/64 round. It seems usual ACBL precedure
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Posted 2007-July-25, 09:59

I am still on adrenaline overdose, this is the first time I play in a serious event, we get to play Hamway for the 1st set and Meckwell for the next 3, and we don't look bad...
Probably some of us will post some hands later this week when I am back home, but here is one hand for a start:
Bidding goes (I think we were unfavourable, will check later):
1S by Meckstroth, P P X by me
2D 2S X (by Rodwell)
I ask about the double, Meckstroth explains it shows preference for a spade lead over diamond, but doesnt promise a spade honor - quite an impressive agreement for such an everyday auction, and indeed Rodwell had xxx of spades and xx of diamonds. Anyway, the contract to be in is maybe 3N by me with my spade QJ "stopper", but after Rodwell doubled AND I asked about the double, I am pretty sure there was no way Meckstroth would lead anything but a high spade from AKTxx...
(But they make mistakes, too.)

Was great fun playing with Phil and Brian, don't miss to meet Phil when you get the chance on a tournament...
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Posted 2007-July-25, 10:31

Edmunte1, on Jul 25 2007, 09:34 AM, said:

No results from 1/64 round. It seems usual ACBL precedure

The results are in the Wednesday Bulletin -- at least the remaining teams are listed with the match-ups.

Wednesday's matches are also listed under the Wednesday results link. looks like someone put it in the wrong place.
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Posted 2007-July-25, 11:16

TimG, on Jul 25 2007, 06:31 PM, said:

Edmunte1, on Jul 25 2007, 09:34 AM, said:

No results from 1/64 round. It seems usual ACBL precedure

The results are in the Wednesday Bulletin -- at least the remaining teams are listed with the match-ups.

Match-ups for the Round of 32 yes, but would it not be a natural thing to list the results of the previous round too? Like ....

Nickell vs Clayton ??? - ???
etc.
etc.

My point is that the bulletin has zillions of results from all kinds of side events every day (most of which are impossible to read with a normal vision), so why not results from the most prestigious of all tournaments?

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Posted 2007-July-25, 12:04

Walddk, on Jul 25 2007, 12:16 PM, said:

My point is that the bulletin has zillions of results from all kinds of side events every day (most of which are impossible to read with a normal vision), so why not results from the most prestigious of all tournaments?

They don't list the losers in the zillions of side events, either.

I imagine as soon as the Spingold progresses to the point where the losers win masterpoints for their overall placement, the results (winners and losers) will be reported.
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Posted 2007-July-25, 15:49

You guys are all a credit to the game. Congratulations on your success and sympathy for your eventual loss. There are many of us reading this who can only hope to someday approach such accomplishment.

I'll look forward to seeing some hands from the match.

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Posted 2007-July-27, 15:53

I enjoyed the tournament so much, I was sad to fly home yesterday. It was great fun to meet or re-meet so many of you forum-posters: Double !, keylime, jlall, elianna, awm, jdonn, pclayton, barmar, fred, sheri, uday, joshs, cherdano and whoever I forget [edit: I forgot jchiu, sorry!].

My previous tournament was already a year ago, and for Arend it really was his first big tournament. We have practiced a lot on BBO though, and we were eager to see if we would be able to play as well as we thought we could.

I arrived on Thursday evening and immediately had a big disappointment: my LMP partner forgot that we would also play with him in the Spingold. He was going to play in the Senior Swiss instead, good start of the tournament!

Arend would arrive on Saturday and would also be very disappointed, we were looking forward to this event so much. Fortunately the next day I met Phil, and it turned out that he and his partner would be able to play with us in the Spingold. Such luck! Not only did Phil and Brian get a great result in the Mini-LMP, they also had fewer masterpoints than my original teammates so if we would get through day one then we might play You-Know-Who!

On Sunday I told Arend that I wouldn't be surprised if he wouldn't be able to play his best game right away. Unfortunately that came true, he played quite poorly in the first set. The second set he played a lot better, though still not as well as I thought he could. In the break we went to a nice restaurant with Brian, Phil and Justin. I don't know what Justin said to him but in the evening Arend played just great, and he continued to do that the next day against Nickell.

The next morning many people told us to enjoy the experience against Nickell (except for awm who thought we got a lucky draw!). I know that this was all meant well but after a while it started to piss me off. We were playing good bridge, we should be trying to win! Well, I don't think we really believed that we could win, and of course we lost. I wasn't even disappointed. Maybe we could have played better otherwise, I hope that we will get another try.

The day after Arend and I played in a one-day knock-out event with the icelandic pair that beat us in the Spingold round-of-four. As Arend and I have almost no masterpoints we got to play in bracket 4 which turned out to be much to low. When is the ACBL going to figure out a way to bracket based on how good you are, instead of how many masterpoints you have? This wasn't much fun for us (although our drunk Icelandic teammates were very happy!) but it also wasn't much fun for some of the LOL's we got to play (not counting Uday's team of course!).

Anyway, it was wonderful tournament. I have lots of hands but I will start new threads.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2007-July-27, 18:01

Yeah, I was a little star struck playing Nickell. So was Brian.

What I now realize later is if we would have played our normal solid game, the match would have been a lot closer. Combine that with a little luck, and we would have pulled this off.

The Nickell team actually gave up a lot more than you would think.

I guarantee you, the next time I come into a match like this, I will have a completely different perspective.

Hamman did tell me later that he's never lost a 1st round matchup since 1961.

And he hasn't always been the top seed either.
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