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#1 User is offline   ralph23 

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Posted 2007-July-18, 18:11

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South opens 3♠ and North raises to 4♠.



You lead your singleton ♣ and partner wins the first trick with the Queen; declarer plays a small one.

At trick two, Partner cashes the King of ♣ and declarer plays another small one, so you know declarer still has the Jack of ♣ and that at trick 3, partner will cash his Ace.

What do you play on trick 2 ? On trick 3 ? Why ?


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Posted 2007-July-18, 18:16

Pitch your hearts.
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Posted 2007-July-18, 19:53

Why the hearts? You would get 3 club tricks then only?

Declarer has 3 diamond and heart cards. Maybe he has 2 hearts and 1 diamond, or 1 heart and 2 diamonds (He wouldn't bid 3♠ with a void).

If he has 1 heart he can just play ace, ruff, a diamond to dummy, (partner has 1) discard other diamond on heart.

If he has two hearts, he can play diamond to dummy, discard heart, (partner has 2 now) and ace of hearts.

If you discard your hearts, declarer can draw as many trumps as he likes, then enjoy two hearts and a diamond or 1 heart and two diamonds, whichever his holding.

Seems cold!!!
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Posted 2007-July-18, 19:57

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Posted 2007-July-18, 20:01

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Posted 2007-July-20, 11:04

You know that declarer started with a 7 or 8 card ♠suit, and he's also got 3♣. Whatever losers he has in the other two suits (including ♥) will certainly go away on those great high cards in dummy.

So, you will never get a trick in ♥... so throw away your ♥ and get partner to return one at trick four so that you can ruff. Hopefully declarer is not void in ♥ !

The hand illustrates IMHO that high cards can be an impediment. If West had two small ♥ he would find the defense much more easily, wouldn't he ? :D

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Which leads to another interesting hand .... one (or very similar one) that actually happened many years ago in a rubber bridge game at a club. The West player was the great Harry Fishbein.

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North opened 1♣ and Harry's partner (notoriously, one of the worst players in the club, who wasn't very observant and who had a "hard time" with defensive signals anyway, to put it charitably :) ) overcalled 1♦.

South bid 1♥ and Harry as West bid 1♠. North now bid 1NT, and Harry's partner raised him to 2♠.

But South now jumped to 4♥, ending the auction.

Harry led his top ♦, and his partner won the first two tricks with the Jack and the King of ♦, Harry playing hi-lo with his doubleton ♦.

At trick 3, East leads his good Ace of ♦ and declarer plays a small one from his hand.

What was Harry's play on trick 3 and why ?
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Posted 2007-July-20, 12:26

I guess he pitched the SA to encourage a 4th diamond. He's never getting his ace anyway.
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Posted 2007-July-20, 12:32

goobers, on Jul 20 2007, 01:26 PM, said:

I guess he pitched the SA to encourage a 4th diamond. He's never getting his ace anyway.

Why didn't he just throw a low ♠ to discourage a ♠ return ?
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Posted 2007-July-20, 12:34

Because they all look high, his spade ace is probably not cashing anyway, and as long as partner pushes a 4th diamond back, you've already beaten the contract one trick
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Posted 2007-July-20, 12:52

Yes, Harry's problem was that (although East could see all the low spades between his hand and dummy) (1) he was playing with a poor partner and (2) the lowest ♠ that he had was the 8 ! East (not being very observant) might think that was a "big one" and lead a ♠.

Harry knew East would not raise him without 3♠, so he was quite sure that declarer is void in ♠.

So, in real life, what did East lead at trick 4 after Harry's spectacular discard ?
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