[PedroG]

Hi All,

I just played a game where I was prempted at the level 4 more precise 4♠

I had this hand and decide to pass my partner in the end just said, what went wrong p we had 27 HCP on our line...

Scoring: IMP

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The biding was 4♠- All Pass

I'm not sure, but at the time I could not find a decend bid to make, should I had said something?

Thank you
Pedro

[mike777]

PedroG, on Jul 8 2007, 04:44 PM, said:

Hi All,

I just played a game where I was prempted at the level 4 more precise 4♠

I had this hand and decide to pass my partner in the end just said, what went wrong p we had 27 HCP on our line...

Scoring: IMP

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The biding was 4♠- All Pass

I'm not sure, but at the time I could not find a decend bid to make, should I had said something?

Thank you
Pedro

I think your options are double or 4nt. Keep in mind double is just showing a good hand, it is not 100% penalty, in fact you expect partner to pull it very often.

[pbleighton]

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I think your options are double or 4nt. Keep in mind double is just showing a good hand, it is not 100% penalty, in fact you expect partner to pull it very often.

Depends on your agreements, Mike. My regular partners rarely pull this double.

Isn't 4NT the minors?

That said, I double. I think I can beat it, and I'm prepared for partner to pull it to any suit.

Peter

[the hog]

This is a double. We play t/o xs through 4S. Though as Peter says above, the higher the X the less likely it is to be taken out.
Can't bid 4NT. That shows a 2 suited takeout, not necessarily the minors.

[neilkaz]

The_Hog, on Jul 8 2007, 05:55 PM, said:

This is a double. We play t/o xs through 4S. Though as Peter says above, the higher the X the less likely it is to be taken out.
Can't bid 4NT. That shows a 2 suited takeout, not necessarily the minors.

In this old days, at least in my circles, 4NT was any take out that didn't want to defend 4♠x and X was quite penalty oriented and PD would only pull with a quite long suit.

However, your method seems to be the modern trend.

Anyhow with 23 support points 18HCP + void for any suit PD bids at the 5 level, one simply cannot pass and risk missing a laydown Grand.

.. neilkaz ..

[BebopKid]

I would double, which I play for penalty usually.

I would expect my p to bid with points in suits other than spades and pass otherwise.

[pclayton]

This is a very nice hand but its not enough to insist on slam. Double and hear pard's opinion. I play all doubles of preempts as takeout, although the higher the level, the more apt he is to leave it in.

[P_Marlowe]

X, what ever partner believes
this bid should mean (t/o or
convertible values), you have it.

Partner will quite often pass, you
have 3-4 sure tricks, so you will
beat it most of the time, and if
partner bids, on you have a fit.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[PedroG]

Thank you all for the answers...

I may have fall in the error of evaluating my hand alone, and not thinking in partner , never counted support points... And tough I was weak for playing at the level 5...

Thanks...
Pedro

[PedroG]

Found this interresting link

Defense against 3-4 level preempt's

TY
Pedro