[kgr]

MP's; N/-
(p)-2H-??
Your partners passes and RHO opens 2H Muiderberg (5card H, 4+ card m).
You hold:
AKxxxxx-Q-AKxxx-v
What do you bid?

[the hog]

My first thought was 4D, which we play as leaping Michaels. The disparity in the pointed suits and the fact that 4D makes it harder to bid a possible pointed slam suggests that X is far better.

[cherdano]

I give up. 4S.

[rbforster]

I'm afraid I might just bid 4♠ too. Our suits rates to break badly, so we may lose a trick here and there if partner doesn't have the right filler for us but I can't think of a better solution.

Re 4♦ - yeah, Leaping Michaels isn't forcing (although strongly invitational) and probably works best with equal suit length or longer minor.

What is the jump cue bid of 4♥? Some sort of strong minor 2-suiter?

[han]

I don't think I'm willing to give up yet, xxx xxx Qxx xxxx makes for an excellent slam. So double followed by 4S (over lebensohl) or 3S (over 3C) it is.

[Gerben42]

Even 4♦ may be an underbid on this one!

@Rob: Leaping Michaels IS forcing, that's the whole point!

[foo]

The_Hog, on Jun 30 2007, 03:23 AM, said:

My first thought was 4D, which we play as leaping Michaels. The disparity in the pointed suits and the fact that 4D makes it harder to bid a possible pointed slam suggests that X is far better.

Hmmm. I like Leaping Micheals with this hand since it at least gets my hand strength and 10 of my cards into the bidding.

What does (2H)-4D-5D;5S show? Is this a reasonable way to show a two suiter with longer Spades than Diamonds (and clearly slam interested)?

What would other rebids show?

It seems to me that most playing Leaping Micheals don't discuss the later auction to this degree.

[whereagles]

Hannie, on Jun 30 2007, 09:57 AM, said:

I don't think I'm willing to give up yet, xxx xxx Qxx xxxx makes for an excellent slam. So double followed by 4S (over lebensohl) or 3S (over 3C) it is.

And is pard supposed to be able to know his ♦Q is enough? I don't think so.

[han]

No, you won't get there opposite that hand. But you may get to slam if partner has a better hand. The only danger is that partner passes.

[pclayton]

I'm not doubling. I'll bid 4♦, but I'd probably in all honesty pass 4♠.

If I was in Heat 1, I'd end up in 6, but not otherwise.

[han]

I think this kind of heat 1 talk is crap.

[pclayton]

Hannie, on Jun 30 2007, 07:56 AM, said:

I think this kind of heat 1 talk is crap.

Coming from someone with a math background, I would expect no less

[cherdano]

Hannie, on Jun 30 2007, 05:58 AM, said:

No, you won't get there opposite that hand. But you may get to slam if partner has a better hand. The only danger is that partner passes.

The other danger is that partner will like his club honors or club suit too much. Not a very big danger, but a danger nonetheless.

[foo]

Hannie, on Jun 30 2007, 10:56 AM, said:

I think this kind of heat 1 talk is crap.

Zia made that theory publicly known. It's not "crap", it's Psychology.
...and since people are governed at least as much if not more by Psychology than Mathematics...

[han]

pclayton, on Jun 30 2007, 11:05 AM, said:

Hannie, on Jun 30 2007, 07:56 AM, said:

I think this kind of heat 1 talk is crap.

Coming from someone with a math background, I would expect no less

It may be a comforting thought to you that people who study mathematics don't understand the mind. In my experience mathematicians are almost as diverse as non-mathematicians.

I think I know what is meant by heat 1. Heat 1 is when you are playing your best game, when everything comes easily and you pick up on the smallest tells. When you are in heat 1 it is a good idea to follow your intuition more than usual. It is not that different from a tennis player that is playing his or her very best game, where every stroke seems to be golden. Or perhaps a better analogy: when the tennis player picks exactly the right moment to come to the net or play a dropshot.

Heat 1 is not necessarily a phase in which you are lucky. It is possible to perceive it that way, as you are more likely to drop a king offside or to guess the queen right. It is also possible that a lucky result may have a positive effect on your level on the next board, as you may become more alert (and confident).

But heat 1 is not a phase in which you overbid on every hand. Heat 1 is a state of mind, not a state of faith.

I changed my mind about the hand btw, I think 4D followed by 5S (over 5D) is better than double.

[pbleighton]

Simple Simon Sez 4S.

Peter

[kgr]

xx-KJxx-xxx-Qxx
-
AKxxxxx-Q-AKxxx-v
Pass-(2H/Muiderberg)-4H-Pass
4S-(Pass)-6S
I don't know the North hand as I was called away from the table for TD decision. I decided to start with 4H (didn't want to bid too low as I was afraid for a 6C save). Partner did bid 4S and that encouraged me to bid 6. Result : -1 for 16%.
I like 4D followed by 4S/5S now.

[skjaeran]

I think this is a good hand for 4♦ leaping Michaels, provided it's GF (IMO it can't be passed).

If partner bids 4♠ or 5♦ I won't pass but instead rebid 5♠. We might get too high this way, but that's be best way to invite slam and at the same time paint a good picture of my hand.

[Fluffy]

I like 4♦+5♠ over 5♦, but I would bid 5♣ over 4♠.

[Free]

4♦ followed by blacky (or 5♠ if partner bids 5♦)