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Pass Pass 1♣ 1♥
Pass 1♠ Pass ?
Your bid please & why?
underbid/overbid
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Posted 2007-June-25, 12:35
West North East South
Pass Pass 1♣ 1♥
Pass 1♠ Pass ?
Your bid please & why?
"And no matter what methods you play, it is essential, for anyone aspiring to learn to be a good player, to learn the importance of bidding shape properly. MikeH
"100% certain that many excellent players would disagree. This is far more about style/judgment than right vs. wrong." Fred
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"100% certain that many excellent players would disagree. This is far more about style/judgment than right vs. wrong." Fred
"Hysterical Raisins again - this time on the World stage, not just the ACBL" mycroft
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Posted 2007-June-25, 12:37
2H.
Unless I find a fit, I will stay low,
and for what's it worth, 2H is surely
not and underbid.
Depending on your style of weak jump
overcalls at the given colors, you could have
bid 3H direct over 1C, or if you believed the
given hand too strong, than 2H now, shows
your hand, more or less.
With kind regards
Marlowe
Unless I find a fit, I will stay low,
and for what's it worth, 2H is surely
not and underbid.
Depending on your style of weak jump
overcalls at the given colors, you could have
bid 3H direct over 1C, or if you believed the
given hand too strong, than 2H now, shows
your hand, more or less.
With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
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Posted 2007-June-25, 12:57
2♥
3♥ really should not be under consideration with this hand. It shows a bunch of hearts and strength.
3♥ really should not be under consideration with this hand. It shows a bunch of hearts and strength.
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Posted 2007-June-25, 13:05
2♥. This is a nice hand but when I show 6 hearts partner knows that I am bidding contructively opposite a passed hand since otherwise I would have overcalled 2♥.
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Posted 2007-June-25, 13:13
2H calmly. The three dead diamond is a concern due to the auction.
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Posted 2007-June-25, 13:17
2♥. This hand is a min unless We find a fit.
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Posted 2007-June-25, 13:27
What's all this about finding a fit? I have a heart fit with myself lol. Anyways, I'd try 3H, don't need much for game.
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Posted 2007-June-25, 13:29
I'd have bid 3♥ initially. This is a great hand.
Once pard moves, I can't bid less that 3♥. The ♠K looks like a nice fitting card.
Once pard moves, I can't bid less that 3♥. The ♠K looks like a nice fitting card.
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Posted 2007-June-25, 13:30
keylime, on Jun 25 2007, 11:13 AM, said:
2H calmly. The three dead diamond is a concern due to the auction.
There's nothing alarming about ♦xxx. RHO opened 1♣ and I expect a club lead.
"Phil" on BBO
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Posted 2007-June-25, 13:36
Jlall, on Jun 25 2007, 02:27 PM, said:
What's all this about finding a fit? I have a heart fit with myself lol. Anyways, I'd try 3H, don't need much for game.
...and how do you like you ♥'s opposite a void?
The ♥ suit is not self-sufficient enough for a 3♥ bid when you are this low on HCP. I'd want at least 3 of the top 4 ♥ honors for a 3♥ bid in this situation.
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Posted 2007-June-25, 13:37
I would bid 2♥ but I think it's really close to 3♥, not that far at all.
Please let me know about any questions or interest or bug reports about GIB.
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Posted 2007-June-25, 14:23
I liked our auction on this hand.
I suspect that my decision to pass in second seat will be more controversial than any of your bids.
I suspect that my decision to pass in second seat will be more controversial than any of your bids.
Alderaan delenda est
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Posted 2007-June-25, 14:26
foo, on Jun 25 2007, 02:36 PM, said:
I'd want at least 3 of the top 4 ♥ honors for a 3♥ bid in this situation.
lol, ok.
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Posted 2007-June-25, 14:43
I don't mind either 2H or 3H
We have a very crisp hand, and spade values & length opposite a very nice.
AQxxx xx xx xxxx makes game if trumps are 2-2.
AJxxxx x Qxxx Qxx and 2H needs trumps 3-2 to make 2H.
Where does that leave us? Who knows?
We have a very crisp hand, and spade values & length opposite a very nice.
AQxxx xx xx xxxx makes game if trumps are 2-2.
AJxxxx x Qxxx Qxx and 2H needs trumps 3-2 to make 2H.
Where does that leave us? Who knows?
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Posted 2007-June-25, 14:44
As the posts so far seems to indicate, the hand is worth about 2.5♥'s. Thus the optimists bid 3♥ and the pessimists bid 2♥ (or is it overbidders and underbidders? 
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I'll stick to the first camp and go for 3♥.
).I'll stick to the first camp and go for 3♥.
Kind regards,
Harald
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Posted 2007-June-25, 14:49
foo, on Jun 25 2007, 02:36 PM, said:
I'd want at least 3 of the top 4 ♥ honors for a 3♥ bid in this situation.
OK, I give up.
Why would you rather have KQJ8xxx than AKTxxxx?
I'd bid 2♥, but for a reason not mentioned so far (maybe because it isn't true). Partner's a passed hand, so I would bid 2♥ over 1 club with a 6 card suit and anything less than an full opening count. By slow bidding it like this, I'm already showing game interest across a maximum passed hand.
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Posted 2007-June-25, 14:53
jillybean2, on Jun 25 2007, 01:35 PM, said:
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Pass Pass 1♣ 1♥
Pass 1♠ Pass ?
Your bid please & why?
very interesting hand.
I will try 2clubs but I can understand why some are bidding 2H or 3H.
My plan is to keep the bidding low and try and find out more. I assume 2clubs is not 100% game forcing.
I agree with the point 1H showed something more than a random overcall at this vul.
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Posted 2007-June-25, 14:55
3 hearts from me may as well be as pushy as I can, I like the hand
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Posted 2007-June-25, 15:10
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Pass Pass 1♣ 1♥
Pass 1♠ Pass 2♥
Pass 3♥ Pass 4♥
Pass Pass Pass
I liked my hand to start with even more after 1♠.
I did play cautiously and bid 2♥, luckily Richard cooperated and we bid and made the game.
"And no matter what methods you play, it is essential, for anyone aspiring to learn to be a good player, to learn the importance of bidding shape properly. MikeH
"100% certain that many excellent players would disagree. This is far more about style/judgment than right vs. wrong." Fred
"Hysterical Raisins again - this time on the World stage, not just the ACBL" mycroft
"100% certain that many excellent players would disagree. This is far more about style/judgment than right vs. wrong." Fred
"Hysterical Raisins again - this time on the World stage, not just the ACBL" mycroft
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Posted 2007-June-25, 15:11
3♥ for me also.
4♥ is a very close second.
2♥ is not even considered.
4♥ is a very close second.
2♥ is not even considered.
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