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#1 User is offline   david_c 

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Posted 2007-June-16, 18:49

Scoring: IMP

Both vulnerable, three passes to you. What do you do?
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Posted 2007-June-16, 18:59

Um, smile, pass, and next hand. Especially at IMPs.
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Posted 2007-June-16, 19:16

pass no problem yet.
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Posted 2007-June-16, 19:25

8 HCP and I want my PD's to strain to open good 11 counts (even if somewhat flattish) and I want them to open all but the raunchiest 12 counts (ie quacky and stiff K they can pass).

I doubt we have anything if our PD opens aggressively so I pass at IMPs.
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Posted 2007-June-16, 20:10

IF playing with Al Roth I would consider opening 2D. :wacko:

Do not want to miss out on a slam.
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Posted 2007-June-16, 23:01

I'd probably open it 1D, really weird hand though I've never seen this.
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Posted 2007-June-17, 00:24

I'm opening for sure. Why can't we just have game? Partner has spade support and two aces, bam. 1♦.
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Posted 2007-June-17, 01:32

Pass, comes two points short of the rule of 15 so it's not close. If we play Muiderberg I'll think about it for a few secs but still pass.
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Posted 2007-June-17, 02:56

Points schmoints. We could still have an easy game and I've got the master suit. "Obvious" 1♦ opening. Partner's got a balanced 10-count, so he'll have at least some support for me.
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Posted 2007-June-17, 04:31

1♠, but only if I think we are better than opponents
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Posted 2007-June-17, 05:32

1♠, but I don't consider this obvious at all.
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Posted 2007-June-17, 05:55

Look at the opponents (particularly LHO) to see if either is showing signs of anxiety. If not, it's clear to open IMO, and I prefer 1♦
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Posted 2007-June-17, 06:41

I am scared ...

the last time I opened a lightish distributional hand in 4th seat - similar to the example hand in this thread but 4-0-6-3 distribution with two or three more high card points - my left hand opponent who had passed as dealer jumped to 4♥.

It made :(
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Posted 2007-June-17, 12:22

Ill open 1D too. Someone didnt open with a 12 count is 1st or 2nd. If its pard, its probably because he's 4333, so I feel confident we dont have a misfit. If pard regularly opens 11 counts with 4H and 5C I also think we have a good chance of a fit and maybe a game.

By the way one of my regular pards regularly passes 4333 13 counts, so I absolutely cant pass this.

By the way, since I think pard has a good hand I think I'll be able to bid my suits without getting passed, so theres no reason for a 1S opening.
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Posted 2007-June-17, 13:24

In my jurisdiction I have a rule of 19 opening and I have spades.

Almost whenever I can, I open. Here 1D is clear for me because I don't falsify suit length unless I absolutely have to.
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