Fluffy, on Jun 20 2007, 03:01 PM, said:
foo, on Jun 20 2007, 02:26 PM, said:
Fluffy, on Jun 20 2007, 07:52 AM, said:
foo, on Jun 19 2007, 09:18 PM, said:
The folks advocating a 1♥ opening are having a very hard time with the subsequent auction. Open 2♣ and these problems do not exist.
2
♣-2
♠-ps-4
♠;??
Who's got the problem now?
In the auction you gave, if that's the =opponents= bidding 4
♠, it's Them who has the problem given that in the OP We have 8
♠'s and in my weak misfit examples We have 6-7
♠'s... ...and GF HCP.
Preempts of the kind you are describing are relatively rare over 2
♣ because the downside is very large and very likely.
Where in the World did you get that auction?
Sorry won't waste my time explainin obvious things, just read my quote and do it literally, not what you wish it said.
Well, you put a "ps" in there, which I assume stands for "pass", and that in turn implies that the auction was Contested. As in:
2
♣-(2
♠)-pa!-(4
♠);
Note the alert on pass by Responder.
Most well trained pairs will have meanings for all of what pass, X, and bid by Responder mean if They compete when We open 2
♣.
Leaps like in your example by the competing side are very rare over a 2
♣ auction. More so than over a Forcing 1
♣.
Probably because the hands you can legitimately expect to get away with it are far fewer when Opener is promising at least 1/2 the Controls in the deck.
(BTW, that's one of the reasons one should keep the requirements for a 2
♣ Opener very strong in terms of tricks based on power).
Overly aggressive competition over a 2
♣ opener will get you some =very= bad scores. My advice is to compete when you've got the right hands, but be disciplined and tread very carefully.
-800 vs Their Game is never a good score. -ungodly big is never a good score vs Their Slam.