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takeout doubles when to bid
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Posted 2007-June-12, 14:39
The glib answer is when you want your partner to bid something. I will try to break this down a little bit more.
I like "shape specific" takeout doubles. That is, I don't just double because I have some arbitrary number of HCP, like 15 or 16. In general I will have at least three card support for all unbid suits. I will occassionally (well, maybe more than occassionally) double with some 4333 hands of more or less average stregnth. Sometimes, I will risk a double with both majors and a doubleton in the unbid minor. If partner bids that, well hope he has them.
With a five card major and takeout double pattern, I will bid the major, and if possible double back in on the next round. I like to use conventional two suited overcalls. A jump to 2NT is unusual, some non-jump 2NT bids are ANY TWO SUITER (not just lowest).
I will resort to a takeout double without the necessary shape if I have a GOSH, which stands for "good one suited hand". But this really has to be quite good, so good in fact, I worry that we will miss game if I simply overcall. My GOSH hands are very strong indeed.
There are also some very strong balanced hands that start with a double then rebids in notrump. These are ones too strong for a direct 1NT.
I like "shape specific" takeout doubles. That is, I don't just double because I have some arbitrary number of HCP, like 15 or 16. In general I will have at least three card support for all unbid suits. I will occassionally (well, maybe more than occassionally) double with some 4333 hands of more or less average stregnth. Sometimes, I will risk a double with both majors and a doubleton in the unbid minor. If partner bids that, well hope he has them.
With a five card major and takeout double pattern, I will bid the major, and if possible double back in on the next round. I like to use conventional two suited overcalls. A jump to 2NT is unusual, some non-jump 2NT bids are ANY TWO SUITER (not just lowest).
I will resort to a takeout double without the necessary shape if I have a GOSH, which stands for "good one suited hand". But this really has to be quite good, so good in fact, I worry that we will miss game if I simply overcall. My GOSH hands are very strong indeed.
There are also some very strong balanced hands that start with a double then rebids in notrump. These are ones too strong for a direct 1NT.
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Posted 2007-June-12, 15:26
That's quite a large question. Can you be more specific???
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Posted 2007-June-12, 15:40
kenrexford, on Jun 12 2007, 04:26 PM, said:
That's quite a large question. Can you be more specific???
well put
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Posted 2007-June-12, 15:46
Hi,
I prefer shape oriented t/o.
With kind regards
Marlowe
I prefer shape oriented t/o.
With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
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Posted 2007-June-12, 16:14
What is shape oriented?
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Posted 2007-June-12, 16:33
navit, on Jun 12 2007, 05:14 PM, said:
What is shape oriented?
It means short in their suit, and support for the unbid suits.
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Posted 2007-June-13, 03:54
IMHO, Some general guidelines
1) 3 cards in unbid majors
2) opening bid
- If you have a choice between 1N overcall and X, take the 1N
- If you have a choice between overcall in minor and X, take the X
1) 3 cards in unbid majors
2) opening bid
- If you have a choice between 1N overcall and X, take the 1N
- If you have a choice between overcall in minor and X, take the X
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