[whereagles]

Hi all. It's matchpoints and you have, at love all, this hand

♠ xx
♥ xx
♦ xx
♣ QJT98xxx

Pard you
1♦ ... ??

1♦ is sayc-like. You can't bid 3♣ because that's strong. A direct 4 or 5♣ is undiscussed. What do you do?

[hrothgar]

I pass with no regrets

[Echognome]

Agree. Seems an easy pass. I may bid clubs later, but why do anything other than pass now?

[pbleighton]

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You can't bid 3♣ because that's strong.

That's too bad, I must pass.

Peter

[gwnn]

.ssap

[jdonn]

Some tactical options, like 1NT or even a major, could work but certainly pass is the system bid and can't be criticized.

[mikeh]

Even thinking is an overbid: pass unless you don't like playing a partnership game.

[foo]

mikeh, on Jun 12 2007, 03:00 PM, said:

Even thinking is an overbid: pass unless you don't like playing a partnership game.

Perfectly put.

[kenrexford]

Jlall, on Jun 12 2007, 04:34 PM, said:

I might bid 1N at certain times.

(Glub, glub, glub)

[P_Marlowe]

Pass, intending to bid clubs if given
the chance et infinitum.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[whereagles]

This hand generated some discussion at the local club game the other day. At table where people bid, opener, who had a red 4-6 and extras, pressed on to 3NT, going 3 to 6 down. 1♦ would definitely make.

I actually don't think 1NT is that bad, provided you have the means to sign-off in clubs subsequently. Still, without agreements, I'd definitely pass and hope for the best.

Thx all

[Codo]

For the 1 NT bidders:
On the given hand, the bidding had begun with
1 ♦ 1 NT
2 ♥

I wihs everybody a good way to sign off in clubs now. I would try 2 NT, Lebensohl, but unluckily, pd will go on with 3 Diamond, because he has extra strength. You may try again to show a sign off in clubs. Impossible for me.

So I am happy with my first pass.

[helene_t]

Codo, on Jun 13 2007, 11:50 AM, said:

For the 1 NT bidders:
On the given hand, the bidding had begun with
1 ♦ 1 NT
2 ♥

I wihs everybody a good way to sign off in clubs now. I would try 2 NT, Lebensohl, but unluckily, pd will go on with 3 Diamond, because he has extra strength. You may try again to show a sign off in clubs. Impossible for me.

I'd pass 3♦ then. We probably go down but as long as we aren' t vulnerable and don't get doubled, it's ok. Opps can make 2♠.

I'm more concerned about a 2N rebid by p. We won't be able to stop in 3♣ and maybe not in 4♣ either.

Maybe the worst that could happen after my 1N is that opps bid 4M and partner doubles.

[Gerben42]

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I might bid 1N at certain times.

Yes me too, when 1♦ is forcing...

[whereagles]

codo/helene: after a 2NT or reverse+3♦, it might be possible to stop in FOUR clubs. This either makes or goes 1 down, depening on defense.

[Codo]

1 ♦ 1 NT
2 ♥ 2 NT
3 ♦ 4 ♣ to play? That is a position

1 ♦ 1 NT
2 NT 3 ♣ to play is easier to understand, but with a 2461 hand no sane pd will bid 2 NT anyway.

Congratulations for having a system where you can stop in 3 or 4 Club after this bidding. I believe that there are more useful meanings then to play it nonforcing, but I tend to pass hands with 3 HCPs when I have no sufficent bid to describe them, so maybe I am just oldfashioned.

So what is wrong with
1 ♦ (pass) pass (1 ♠)
2 ♥ (2 ♠) 3 ♣

to show the hand?

Of course any form of bluff or semibluff can work from time to time, but not this time.

[P_Marlowe]

whereagles, on Jun 13 2007, 06:00 AM, said:

codo/helene: after a 2NT or reverse+3♦, it might be possible to stop in FOUR clubs. This either makes or goes 1 down, depening on defense.

Hi,

I doubt that I can stop in 4C, 4C is only in very few cases
a possible contacrt.

If opener makes a 3D rebid, I can pass.
He may thank me, that I have great trust in
his declarer play, since without any reasons I
raised the bar by 2 tricks.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[goobers]

4♣ is Gerber!

[whereagles]

shoot that guy