Kx on dummy opposite Jx in hand. It seems that small to the King should win a fair percentage of the time (against sane defense) even though Declarer's RHO has the Ace.
Qx on dummy, Jx in hand, also should win about the same percentage of the time, on small to the Queen, even with the Ace to the right.
The odds of this play having a chance seems to be one in every seven times (14.3% or so), if you ignore or are able to create an illusion as to the rest of Declarer's expected hand and the tactical needs of the defense.
I never see this play done, though. Anyone ever try this, or ever see this done?
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#1
Posted 2007-June-08, 23:17
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#2
Posted 2007-June-08, 23:41
I just thought of another one. Similar.
AJ9x in dummy, K108x in hand. It seems that the correct play is small to the Ace, finesse the queen back, all things being equal, that that this line should result in greater success than any other line.
AJ9x in dummy, K108x in hand. It seems that the correct play is small to the Ace, finesse the queen back, all things being equal, that that this line should result in greater success than any other line.
"Gibberish in, gibberish out. A trial judge, three sets of lawyers, and now three appellate judges cannot agree on what this law means. And we ask police officers, prosecutors, defense lawyers, and citizens to enforce or abide by it? The legislature continues to write unreadable statutes. Gibberish should not be enforced as law."
-P.J. Painter.
-P.J. Painter.
#3
Posted 2007-June-09, 04:21
very interesting one: after an elimination you are in dummy with Kxx opposite Txx, you can easily cross. Interestingly enough, a small one was played to the T and it held! RHO had AQJx
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#4
Posted 2007-June-09, 04:51
kenrexford, on Jun 9 2007, 08:41 AM, said:
I just thought of another one. Similar.
AJ9x in dummy, K108x in hand. It seems that the correct play is small to the Ace, finesse the queen back, all things being equal, that that this line should result in greater success than any other line.
AJ9x in dummy, K108x in hand. It seems that the correct play is small to the Ace, finesse the queen back, all things being equal, that that this line should result in greater success than any other line.
This one I start with the Jack from dummy, putting the King no matter what RHO plays. If the Queen hasn't appeared I now make the finesse. Opps should be given more chances to err.
#5
Posted 2007-June-09, 05:50
kenrexford, on Jun 9 2007, 12:41 AM, said:
I just thought of another one. Similar.
AJ9x in dummy, K108x in hand. It seems that the correct play is small to the Ace, finesse the queen back, all things being equal, that that this line should result in greater success than any other line.
AJ9x in dummy, K108x in hand. It seems that the correct play is small to the Ace, finesse the queen back, all things being equal, that that this line should result in greater success than any other line.
If I can, I use the theory of Vacant Spaces or some other logic to determine in which direction to take the finesse.
If I can't use logic, I finesse in whatever direction will p*ss off the opponent I dislike most by the most...
#6
Posted 2007-June-09, 07:58
If the opponents do not err, in the classic sense, but make a play that might be right in their view, and in yours, all of these plays will work a percentage of the time. Some of the lines I see so far cater to less subtle mistakes, it seems.
The Kxx-10xx is a nice position, but I'm not sure your line is mathematically accurate and missing the key aspect of these three situations (there are more); the person behind the Kxx is endplayed anyway if he rises, it seems, and must hope that his partner has the 10. If there is no cross-ruff, you may have caught on well.
I'll leave the carrot dangling a bit more, because I suspected and have had confirmed that the positions were not quite obvious.
The Kxx-10xx is a nice position, but I'm not sure your line is mathematically accurate and missing the key aspect of these three situations (there are more); the person behind the Kxx is endplayed anyway if he rises, it seems, and must hope that his partner has the 10. If there is no cross-ruff, you may have caught on well.
I'll leave the carrot dangling a bit more, because I suspected and have had confirmed that the positions were not quite obvious.
"Gibberish in, gibberish out. A trial judge, three sets of lawyers, and now three appellate judges cannot agree on what this law means. And we ask police officers, prosecutors, defense lawyers, and citizens to enforce or abide by it? The legislature continues to write unreadable statutes. Gibberish should not be enforced as law."
-P.J. Painter.
-P.J. Painter.
#7
Posted 2007-June-09, 08:10
kenrexford, on Jun 9 2007, 12:41 AM, said:
I just thought of another one. Similar.
AJ9x in dummy, K108x in hand.
It seems that the correct play is small to the Ace, finesse the queen back, all things being equal, that that this line should result in greater success than any other line.
AJ9x in dummy, K108x in hand.
It seems that the correct play is small to the Ace, finesse the queen back, all things being equal, that that this line should result in greater success than any other line.
Not sure about that. My partner always cashes the ace and king. He swears that this is the correct safety play against doubleton queen. I admit that so far his claim holds up -- I've never known him to lose to a doubleton queen with this holding.
#8
Posted 2007-June-09, 08:26
Actually, I'll be away for a tourney all weekend, so I suppose I'll toss 'er in here to avoid driving people nuts if they don't figure this out.
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-P.J. Painter.
-P.J. Painter.
#9
Posted 2007-June-09, 08:45
These things come up in defense also, although hey seem more obvious there.
A classic is leading Q from AQx at the Kxx in dummy, planning to win the first three tricks in the suit. I had the fortune of being able to lead Q from AQJ2 at K1083 in dummy and winning the first three tricks in that suit, on one occasion. My wife actually elected to lead fourth best from AKJ6 in a side suit, against a trump contract, catching Q1097 in dummy; Declarer, a pro, lost the first three tricks in the suit when his RHO gave correct standard count.
A classic is leading Q from AQx at the Kxx in dummy, planning to win the first three tricks in the suit. I had the fortune of being able to lead Q from AQJ2 at K1083 in dummy and winning the first three tricks in that suit, on one occasion. My wife actually elected to lead fourth best from AKJ6 in a side suit, against a trump contract, catching Q1097 in dummy; Declarer, a pro, lost the first three tricks in the suit when his RHO gave correct standard count.
"Gibberish in, gibberish out. A trial judge, three sets of lawyers, and now three appellate judges cannot agree on what this law means. And we ask police officers, prosecutors, defense lawyers, and citizens to enforce or abide by it? The legislature continues to write unreadable statutes. Gibberish should not be enforced as law."
-P.J. Painter.
-P.J. Painter.
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