I am not a qualified TD but tonight I was covering because the TD was away. There were several qualified TDs playing in the event and so I had been instructed to take down the details and get one of the TDs to give a ruling once they had played the board.
On board 2 of the evening I got called to a table and was told the following:
North had failed to put back his cards from board 1 and was still holding his cards from board 1 during the bidding of board 2. He passed throughout and was then on lead. He led the Q♣ and his partner said "Something's wrong, I have that card too". At this point the mistake was realised and the director was called.
In the end the mistake had little effect as North would have passed through out anyway, E-W would have reached the same contract and the UI that his partner has Q♣ is not particularly relevant. The contract made and the result stood.
Not a particularly interesting ruling but an interesting and presumably fairly unusual situation!
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#2
Posted 2007-May-24, 19:51
Anyone who doesn't realize he is playing the exact same hand two hands is a row is hardly likely to do well in an event. So please be kind the club Queen leader.
--Ben--
#3
Posted 2007-May-24, 22:39
What about a defender leading out of turn after an opponent had said it was his lead? Mis-information?
#4
Posted 2007-May-24, 23:42
sheepman, on May 24 2007, 11:39 PM, said:
What about a defender leading out of turn after an opponent had said it was his lead? Mis-information?
Yes. See Law 47E1. Defender may retract the lead without penalty.
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#5
Posted 2007-May-25, 01:18
Agree with Ben: it's a club evening where people want to enjoy their game. They don't even notice they hold the exact same hand twice... Don't ruin it. Let him take his cards out of the board, if everything would've been the same, let him lead his card, but tell him he should not take into account that his partner has ♣Q. That's all. Since it doesn't matter, don't give them extra penalty's.
"It may be rude to leave to go to the bathroom, but it's downright stupid to sit there and piss yourself" - blackshoe
#6
Posted 2007-May-25, 02:24
Nice, Jon. Did the cards from the two boards have the same-coloured backs? They shouldn't have done
I saw the most amusing ruling in a while at the club on Wednesday...the table next to mine forgot to arrow-switch, and called the director having looked at the cards but before any bids were made. The director told them to put their cards away and play the other two boards first, hoping that they'd have forgotten their opponent's hand by that point
I saw the most amusing ruling in a while at the club on Wednesday...the table next to mine forgot to arrow-switch, and called the director having looked at the cards but before any bids were made. The director told them to put their cards away and play the other two boards first, hoping that they'd have forgotten their opponent's hand by that point
#7
Posted 2007-May-25, 03:25
Mom had a lot of funny stories after directing in our local for 20 years.
One of the best was that a table played the same hand twice in the same round, they didn't notice at all, they played it again, written down the score and left a third board with no play. Of course the final contract and the result were totally different on each play
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One of the best was that a table played the same hand twice in the same round, they didn't notice at all, they played it again, written down the score and left a third board with no play. Of course the final contract and the result were totally different on each play
#8
Posted 2007-May-29, 10:26
inquiry, on May 24 2007, 08:51 PM, said:
Anyone who doesn't realize he is playing the exact same hand two hands is a row is hardly likely to do well in an event. So please be kind the club Queen leader.
Amazingly enough, many years ago, I was actually dealt an (almost, see below) identical hand, two hands in a row in a shuffle and play event.
As we took our cards from the travellers for the second board, I sorted my hand, and stated we had already played this board, assuming it was still the first board. Noone else at the table agreed with me, however, and at their insistence, we proceeded to bid and play the 2nd board.
After the play of the hand was over, I looked at both hands and discovered the 2nd hand was actually off by one card. One suit was J85, instead of J86. Other than that, all the other cards were the same.
Is the word "pass" not in your vocabulary?
So many experts, not enough X cards.
So many experts, not enough X cards.
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