[jdonn]

inquiry, on May 24 2007, 06:44 AM, said:

(note if patner has AK of spades and AK of diamonds, he is probably not passing 3NT, but he might... )

Why wouldn't he? He showed club support, his singleton, and extra values. In that context he doesn't have anything extra and has described his hand to a tee.

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

4C, to give partner a chance to use
keycards (what ever), over 4D I bid
5C, the shortness sents my hand down.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[han]

I had AKxx x Axxx QJ10x.

[foo]

Hannie, on May 23 2007, 04:11 PM, said:

Practicing our 1D-2C structure this hand came up.

♠Qx♥KJx♦xx♣AKxxxx

1D-2C
3C*-3D**
3H***

* = 4+ clubs, extras.
** = ask.
*** = shortness.

What's your plan? If you bid 4C then partner will cue 4D.

...I (the 1D opener) had ♠AKxx♥x♦Axxx♣QJTx

If opener had ♠AKxx♥x♦Axxx♣QJTx , I do not like this auction.

Better IMHO is 1D-2C;2S-3C;etc where we start using Mr Rexford's cuebidding tools.

We should find 6C fairly easily.

[han]

2S is artificial and denies 4 clubs. It wasn't an option.

[foo]

Hannie, on May 24 2007, 02:42 PM, said:

2S is artificial and denies 4 clubs. It wasn't an option.

What system is this?

What is the actual 1D-2C structure you were using? It's kind of hard to make useful comments based on something akin to Standard or 2/1 when what is being discussed is different...

[jdonn]

Hannie, on May 24 2007, 02:42 PM, said:

2S is artificial and denies 4 clubs. It wasn't an option.

And kind of silly even if it were possible. And moot since opener could as easily have one more diamond and one less spade.

Your auction seems to have worked perfectly. After responder bids 4♣ the pair is well on its way to slam, opener can all but just bid it even at that point.

[han]

I don't know what the problem is. I've told you what the auction means, so why can't you comment on what you would do later? I don't think the negative inferences are that important here. It really doesn't matter here if partner has AKx x Axxxx QJxx or the actual hand.

Our system more or less based on 2/1 GF. We play artificial follow ups in auctions starting with 1X-2C.

[Fluffy]

I don't see any problem on that, he specified what the biddings meant, and this is NOT the SA-2/1 forum. I don't know what 'akin' means anyway.

[han]

akin = similar to.

[Fluffy]

thanks