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#1 User is offline   kgr 

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Posted 2007-April-30, 09:25

Scoring: IMP

1H-1S
2D-??

Opps Silent. Do you agree with the bidding so far and do you bid 2 or 3H now?
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Posted 2007-April-30, 09:29

I disagree with 1S, I would have bid 2H directly.

If I thought this hand was invitational (and it's very close), then I would have bid 1S followed by 3H.

I wouldn't criticize a partner who bid 1S followed by 3H. I would criticize 1S followed by 2H. You let the opps in, and you imply only 2 card heart support in an uncontested auction.

Peter
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Posted 2007-April-30, 10:22

Hi,

the main trouble with 2H now is,
that partner wont take me for
primary support.

I would go with 3H, but this is a
overbid, but than, it would not be
the first time that I go down.

With kind regards
Marlowe

PS: I tend to agree with the bidding,
I hide a 4 card suit, but I would not
hide a 5 cader, but than this hand my
be the explantion, why I should.
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
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Posted 2007-April-30, 10:27

If you are playing 5 card majors then you should have raised to 2 at your first call.
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Posted 2007-April-30, 12:55

Agree with auction (I think a direct 2 achieves little as compared to the possibility of skipping a double fit). Will bid 2 now, as black holdings are kinda sucky after pard's red suiter.
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Posted 2007-April-30, 13:44

I'd have raised to 2 initially.
Now I'm really stuck, since partner never will expect such a good hand for a 2 preference. I'd opt for the 3 now, although that's a slight overbid.
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Posted 2007-April-30, 14:02

pbleighton, on Apr 30 2007, 04:29 PM, said:

I disagree with 1S, I would have bid 2H directly.

If I thought this hand was invitational (and it's very close), then I would have bid 1S followed by 3H.

I wouldn't criticize a partner who bid 1S followed by 3H. I would criticize 1S followed by 2H. You let the opps in, and you imply only 2 card heart support in an uncontested auction.

Peter

What he said.
Although whether I bid 2H on the first round or not depends on the range I play for the call.
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Posted 2007-April-30, 15:26

I would have bid 1S with the plan of rebidding 3H, so I'll rebid 3H.
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Posted 2007-April-30, 17:24

I don't think there is much to choose between 2 last round and 1 then 3. But the problem should have been given a round earlier, as 2 now certainly isn't an option.
Please let me know about any questions or interest or bug reports about GIB.
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Posted 2007-May-01, 02:05

This is what I was taught, hope it's useful:

If you want to be invitational with three trumps, change suit then be invitational in p's suit

If you're not invitational, support directly.

Only change suit if you are not invitational, if you don't have proper support.

i.e. changing suit then supporting non-invitationally, means you don't have proper support (this is what you did).

If you want to be invitational with four trumps, be invitational directly.
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Posted 2007-May-01, 09:14

Thanks all for the answers.
The interesting part for me was that
1H-1S
2D-2H
shows a weak hand with no real H support.
(Yes I knew that, but it's important to realise it before bidding 1S ..or posting the question like I did :) )
Seems like the responses were divided between 2H or an invite after 1S.
Full hand for completeness:
Scoring: IMP

1H-1S
2D-3H
4H

Result: 4H-2
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