I'm bad at naming these things
#1
Posted 2007-April-28, 11:20
p 1♣ p 1♦
1♥ 1♠ p 2♥
p 2♠ p ?
If you don't agree with the bidding to now I don't mind saying what you would have done, but in any case now what, both for this bid and for a general plan.
#2
Posted 2007-April-28, 11:37
Do you have an agreement on 2♠? Does it promise 5, or is it a punt with a hand that can't take another call?
Anyway, I'll try 2N and see what that gets me. I'm probably heading toward 3N.
#4
Posted 2007-April-28, 11:44
a.k.a. Appeal Without Merit
#5
Posted 2007-April-28, 12:17
Harald
#6
Posted 2007-April-28, 12:49
#7
Posted 2007-April-28, 13:22
#8
Posted 2007-April-28, 13:25
#9
Posted 2007-April-28, 14:22
2) prefer 3nt over opening bid of one club but can live with one D.
3) prefer 3nt after partner rebid 1spade also but ...
#10
Posted 2007-April-28, 14:48
drinbrasil, on Apr 28 2007, 02:25 PM, said:
I would have rebid 3H with those hand examples over 2H by partner...not 2s. Of course I would have made different bids with the responder hand also...so...
#11
Posted 2007-April-28, 15:21
I have made enough noise, in case we have as
slam, partner will make a move, espesially
if he is 6-5 ... and yes I am fine with the biddng,
altough I may have bid 3NT direct, a slight
underbid.
With kind regards
Marlowe
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
#13
Posted 2007-April-28, 17:51
- hrothgar
#14
Posted 2007-April-28, 18:04
I would have just rebid 2s even with 65 and 14 hcp. Perhaps that is not standard.
AQJxx...Q...Q...Kxxxxxx
#15 Guest_Jlall_*
Posted 2007-April-28, 18:09
#16
Posted 2007-April-28, 19:08
AQJxx
void
xx
AKJxxx
produces a lay down grand, it behooves me to at least leave bidding room for investigating slam. If partner bids 4♠ over my 3♠, should I continue with 5♦? I think so. What do you think?
#17
Posted 2007-April-28, 19:12
jdeegan, on Apr 28 2007, 08:08 PM, said:
AQJxx
void
xx
AKJxxx
produces a lay down grand, it behooves me to at least leave bidding room for investigating slam. If partner bids 4♠ over my 3♠, should I continue with 5♦? I think so. What do you think?
I would pass, if partner just bids 4s over 3s. He did not cue 4clubs for some reason.
#18
Posted 2007-April-28, 20:27
I am of the opinion that if partner has a slammish-type minimum, I have a good hand for him, but I think it better for me to describe to him than keep asking more information from him.
I am in favor of bidding your appropriate number of NT in round 1. I have found that when holding a NT hand it is most often the wisest course of action to place partner in the pilot's seat and let him decide how much hand he holds in light of the auction.
#19
Posted 2007-April-28, 20:36
Winstonm, on Apr 28 2007, 09:27 PM, said:
I am of the opinion that if partner has a slammish-type minimum, I have a good hand for him, but I think it better for me to describe to him than keep asking more information from him.
I am in favor of bidding your appropriate number of NT in round 1. I have found that when holding a NT hand it is most often the wisest course of action to place partner in the pilot's seat and let him decide how much hand he holds in light of the auction.
I assumed partner would have an easy pass over rho bid of one heart with your example hand? If they play something else hopefully we will find out.
1) Pass would show a minimum hand with no heart stopper.
2) Deny 5+c with 4 spades, walsh, unbalanced.
3) deny 3D, no support x.
#20
Posted 2007-April-28, 21:28
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Generally not a good idea to use pass here for all weak hands but only for weaker hands with no convenvient bid. The Walsh structure is designed for non-competitive auctions and is no longer followed when the opponents bid. The 1S bid over 1H should not express any extra values, shape, or additional length. If you pass with AQxx, xxx, xx, AKxx the auction may procede p-1C-p-1D-1H-p-4H-X-p-?
Are you going to bid 4S when partner may hold KJ, x, AQxxxx, Jxxx? Will you pass for penalty when he might hold: Kxxx, x, AKJxx, xxx?
If opener had bid 1S over 1H, you can pass the double easily with the first and will play 4S opposite the second.
P.S. Using support double for diamonds is an extremely poor choice, IMO. A better choice is to show a 4-card heart suit in case the auction is p-1c-p-1D-1S-X as now if you pass even a simple preemptive jump to 3S can shut out hearts. If you use this method double here: p-1C-P-1D-1H-X can show 4 spades and bidding 1 spade can show 56.