[sathyab]

Scoring: MP

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Bidding goes:


W N E S

p p 1d 1s

2d 2h 3d ?


Pass, Double and 3s all seem to have some appeal.

[pclayton]

This is a curious hand. Pard is a passed hand, and doesn't have great spade support, and is short in diamonds. Pard didn't open with a weak 2, but didn't make a responsive double either.

Therefore, I am putting pard on some kind of 2=5=1=5 with great hearts and crappy clubs. xx, AKJxx, x, xxxxx.

Across from this hand type, double has a lot of appeal. I'll lead my stiff, get pard in with a heart, get a ruff or two, and might even get two spade tricks in the wash. 500 seems likely and even 800 is possible.

[Apollo81]

Put me down for double also cause of the conditions.

[pclayton]

Jlall, on Apr 17 2007, 10:15 AM, said:

wow they're vul and it's matchpoints. I would smack this off and go for 200. They could make but we're certainly a pretty strong favorite to beat them.

I would have overcalled 2S white/red opposite a passed hand.

edit: I'm not as optimistic as Phil though

I'll gladly settle for +200 out of court before the opening lead is made.

[whereagles]

3♠. I could almost bet pard has support...

[gwnn]

I'm being a wussie and 3♠'ing (who knows they might "take the push" ). At the table I might X though.

[jdonn]

I was leaning toward 3♠ at first, but the other posts have talked me into double.

[pbleighton]

Double, because it's matchpoints and they are vulnerable.

Peter

[skjaeran]

I'd be very surprised if partner didn't have good support here. No weak 2♥, no responsive double, etc. So 2♥ should be a fnj.

I'd bid 4♠ at any form of scoring.

[mike777]

double I got 4 trumps and partner has hearts, yes?

Prefer 2 spades rather than one spade as partner is a passed hand.

[jdonn]

skaeran, on Apr 17 2007, 04:19 PM, said:

I'd be very surprised if partner didn't have good support here. No weak 2♥, no responsive double, etc. So 2♥ should be a fnj.

Sigh, I can't take this discussion again!!!

Suffice to say that if it promised a fit in the given partnership, the problem wouldn't be here.

[bid_em_up]

jdonn, on Apr 17 2007, 05:16 PM, said:

skaeran, on Apr 17 2007, 04:19 PM, said:

I'd be very surprised if partner didn't have good support here. No weak 2♥, no responsive double, etc. So 2♥ should be a fnj.

Sigh, I can't take this discussion again!!!

Suffice to say that if it promised a fit in the given partnership, the problem wouldn't be here.

Not only that, but even if 2H does not promise a fit (it may or may not have one), the double at least lets him know we are willing to defend and reevaluate his hand for defensive purposes.

Partner will usually pull with an undisclosed fit and we can then bid game, otherwise we take our likely plus on defense.

[the hog]

xx, AKJxx, x, xxxxx.

Isn't this a weak 2H opening? Put me in with the fnj brigade. Opposite a S fit and ok hearts this is worth a 4S bid.
Double would be penalties. Could well be a double swing.

[dake50]

4S.
2H not fnj, but what sane partner has no 2H/1H opener, yet now 2H misfitting spades? Lead direct void? SKx HAQxxx looks about right.

[mr1303]

CLoser to 4S than any of the others, and definitely 2H should be a FNJ. Opposite xxx AKxxx x xxxx or similar, I expect this to make an overtrick more often than not.

[1eyedjack]

Opponents can see the vulnerability and scoring conditions as well as we can. I am not so confident about the double. I went for 3♠.

[Halo]

I went for 3♠ because my trumps are poor and I think partner has some fit with me.

Several people have mentioned that they would have overcalled 2♠. This is, I think, the dilemma: our methods have left us out of step with the room. Now we can either optimistically assume we have been given an opportunity to double that other NS didn't get, or we can assume that we are near game in spades. Maybe wrongly I prefer to play rather than defend.

[Edmunte1]

1. For me 2♥ is not a fnj. And i wouldn't double with 5♥ and 2♠. 2♥ says i have decent+ 5 hearts, a goodish passing hand, and probably i resist 2♠. Probably a 2♥ muiderberg opening wasn't systemic.
2. I like 1♠ at this vulnerabilities. The hand has a good offensive potential, so game can be still on if we find ♠ fit
3. What should i do? I'll definitely not pass, scoring +100 when +110/+140/+170 is almost certain won't get me good marks. My choice is between 3♠ and double, and this time, due to the purity of the hand and doubleton ♥ i'll choose 3♠

[whereagles]

2♥ as FNJ does make sense but I wouldn't take it as such without previous discussion.