[firmit]

Scoring: IMP

1♦-1♥
1♠-2♣*
2♦-2♥
3♦-4NT

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Now what - just played on BBO. As south - I feel partner has showed his hand well.

Edit: 4NT is 03/14 RCKB

4SF is accepted, and slam invit is also accepted, the way I see it. He must accept my diamonds, given him not bidding 3♥. Right? He might very well have a solid 6 card heart-suit or at least KQJxx of hearts. And the ace of clubs, he would not ask with no keycards himself. Should I be afraid of him passing my 5♦ respond playing 03/14? Guess this is a good example of why 14/30 is better...

For you who played, and bid the hand correctly, you'll know North has ♠K ♥KQJxxxx ♦Jx ♣AKx.

My respons - the fatal 7♦ which was DBL, and the magic lead of a heart to RHO's void. Trumphs was 4-1 - the ugly way - down 2.

Should I correct after the double? Should I flee to 7♥/NT?
Is 14/30 a perfect example of superiority here?
Any thougths on 1♦-2♥ as GF slam invit as an alternative auction?

[ArcLight]

What was 4NT - was is RCKBW?
You have 4 key cards. Pard will now know what to do.

Did you bid 7D over 4NT?
Thats too unilateral for me.

Pard asked a question, why not respond and see wahts up?

[mike777]

Playing with a pickup 4nt must be blackwood for D, whatever version is posted in her profile. Sure partner could have bid 4D over 3D but with those hearts in a pickup partnership I think 4nt was fine.

[jdonn]

Why not raise partner's 2♥ bid? You already have essentially denied three hearts, so Ax is great support. Then there could have been no confusion.

Presuming you are taking 4NT as rkc, which 99.99% of people there would mean it as, then it's certainly for diamonds and you should just answer correctly, even with a 5♦ bid. Partner could then have counted all the keycards and tricks for 7NT. Here I guess he was worried you had some hand including a heart void.

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

I think 3H instead of 3D is better.
And the 7D answer to 4NT does not exist,
what ever you hold, no hand justifies that
bid. In short it says something like, partner
is an idiot.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[bid_em_up]

firmit, on Apr 9 2007, 01:30 PM, said:

Any thoughts on 1♦-2♥ as GF slam invite as an alternative auction?

I do play this structure (as opposed to wjs).

The way I play it is game forcing, it shows no more than a one loser suit opposite void, and with at least a King outside. When this hand type comes up, the bid works quite well. Opener bids 2N without a fit, any other bid implies fit and is a cuebid in support of responders major. Responder still can cuebid over a 2N response, essentially saying, "I dont care about trump support, the suit is solid, please bid controls". It is not necessarily a "strong" jump shift in the old fashioned terms of 18-19 hcp (although it still can be). It is usually more like hands similar to:

AKQ109xx x Axx xx or
KQJ10xxx x Kxx Ax or
AQJ10xx xx AKx xx, etc.

The idea is to set trumps immediately, establish whether or not there is a fit and if so, start exploring controls. It works for my partnership(s).

However, in your given auction, as already suggested by jdonn, why 3♦? 3♥ is much better. The 2♥ bid should promise 6+ in this sequence, and Ax is now adequate support.

[firmit]

jdonn, on Apr 9 2007, 09:26 PM, said:

Why not raise partner's 2♥ bid? You already have essentially denied three hearts, so Ax is great support. Then there could have been no confusion.

Presuming you are taking 4NT as rkc, which 99.99% of people there would mean it as, then it's certainly for diamonds and you should just answer correctly, even with a 5♦ bid. Partner could then have counted all the keycards and tricks for 7NT. Here I guess he was worried you had some hand including a heart void.

Why not raise hearts.... excellent point!

I stand corrected - on all levels!

You nailed my partners analysis

[skjaeran]

Totally disagree with 3♦ - you've got to support ♥'s now, since you've denied three card support already.

You've bid yourself into a corner now. The only solution is to give the correct response to RKCB, and hope partner is able to make a good decision.

[whereagles]

Agree that 3♥ is better than 3♦, but I also think a straight 3♦ (instead of 2) would be better.

Over 3♦ pard would probably bid 3♥, after which I can later decide whether to bid 4NT (RKCB♥) or avoid a mixup and simply support in 4♥.

[mhais]

4nt i take as rkcb in d suit & my responce will be 5d 1 or 4 keycards 3 aces & dk.

[Apollo81]

I think the auction given is fine. I don't understand what happened after the 4NT bid unless your next bid was 7♦.