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My favorite hand from St. Louis

#1 User is offline   fred 

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Posted 2007-March-28, 14:49

Nothing I can brag about happened at the tables I was playing at during the recent ACBL Spring NABC in St. Louis.

But there were plenty of interesting hands on vugraph from St. Louis. This one came from the 3rd quarter of the Vanderbilt semi-final match between Cayne and Henner-Welland.

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At both tables there were largely arfiticial auctions in which North showed both majors and South didn't really show anything.

At one table North played in 7S.

At the other table South played in 7NT.

Spades were led at both tables.

All players were world class.

What do you think of the declarers' chances to make their respective contracts?

How do you think the play and defense should go?

If you saw this hand take place (or feel inclined to look up the record) please give others a chance to think about it by not immediately posting the "answer".

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Posted 2007-March-28, 14:58

I think 7NT will probably be made and 7♠ will probably go down. Reason in hidden text.

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Posted 2007-March-28, 15:02

(7NT) GL West with your discards on the third and fourth rounds of spades.

West is going to have a hard time not giving away his distribution in 7NT. It's way easier against 7♠N since the hand that has shown the majors is declaring. For one, West knows that he can pitch diamonds.
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Posted 2007-March-28, 15:12

Apollo81, on Mar 28 2007, 10:02 PM, said:

(7NT) GL West with your discards on the third and fourth rounds of spades.

West is going to have a hard time not giving away his distribution in 7NT. It's way easier against 7♠N since the hand that has shown the majors is declaring. For one, West knows that he can pitch diamonds.

If west pitches two diamonds, declarer unblocks the ♣K and cashes three ♦'s ending in south. West will have to make another discard.

If he discards a club, declarer will get a complete count of the hand, so he's got to discard a heart.

Declarer then plays out his two ♣ winners, noting that west follows with the jack. Of cource that might be a false card. But the heart pitch will look curious. I'd guess declarer would get this right, and play west to be 2-4-4-3, and play the heart suit correctly on this layout, and thus make the contract.
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Posted 2007-March-28, 15:16

Word, west will be forced to pitch a heart and he will also have tanked for like 80 minutes while discarding so declarer will get it right I think. I think this will happen whoever is declaring but I didn't think too much about it so I look forward to the answer :)
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Posted 2007-March-28, 15:42

I saw this hand on BBO at the time ..... and have bored everybody I know with it...
I think it is simply stunning....what gets me is, did one side know what contract to play from their auction.... or was it just chance?
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Posted 2007-March-28, 15:58

There is also a restricted choice argument for the 7NT player. Since west obviously led a "safe" major, he might have led a heart with only small cards in each. In fact maybe that in itself is a case to lead a minor on the actual hand vs. 7NT if west could convince himself one of them is safe.
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Posted 2007-March-29, 09:31

Nickboss, on Mar 28 2007, 04:42 PM, said:

I saw this hand on BBO at the time ..... and have bored everybody I know with it...
I think it is simply stunning....what gets me is, did one side know what contract to play from their auction.... or was it just chance?

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Posted 2007-March-29, 13:40

This is a neat hand. Almost an identical problem was the source of great discussion over drinks with a friend and partner of mine. Playing with someone else, he had occasion to make a play from the equivalent of xx in such a situation, to create a mirage for the Declarer that he held Qxx. Unfortunately, his partner missed the nuances and gave away the story by a bad pitch himself, not realizing the cross-double-cross circumstances of the deal.

One of the most difficult of situations to defend is this sort of informational immaterial squeeze. It is also interesting that perhaps East could realize the mirage in diamonds for partner and pitch count in diamonds on the fourth spade. However, Opener might then have a 50-50 guess as to how to structure the last spade play, to avoid the wrong person making the first count pitch. Obviously, it seems that Opener should avoid playing off the minors too early, as that would let West know that the diamond Jack is really useless.

The spade lead suggests, by restricted choice, that Declarer should play that person for the diamond mirage problem. So, to some degree, it seems that 7♠ may also suffer because Declarer might well win the fourth spade in hand, thereby allowing East to clarify 100% the diamond situation (maybe North could be 5440 or 4441?), whereas the South Declarer, using restricted choice, would tend to cash the fourth spade in hand to exact maximum pressure on West without exchange from East as to diamond count.
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Posted 2007-March-30, 01:46

I think this is the hand of the tournament because everyone can learn from it. If you look at the levels Fred showed it is truely a world class hand, but after West discarded a Club, counting can show also advancing players how to make the contract.
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