[jdonn]

The double dummy - ness of most people answering (excluding relayers I guess) is astounding. Yes I'm sure 80% of bridge players will just barrel into slam with 31 high and no fit. Even some of the relay auctions give me doubts, as Echo's post shows. I would bid

2♣ 2♥ (shows about 7+ with no suit worth bidding)
3♦ 3♥
3♠ 3NT
4♣

for sure. Now responder is sort of on the cusp since his cards are useful but there is no fit at all and he has a minimum with a singleton diamond. He could bid either 4♠ which opener would pass, or 5NT to pick a slam, opener would bid 6♦ (I don't think he should suggest clubs again since he could have still had four), and responder would land it in 6♠. It's impossible to say fairly what would really happen since I already know the hands and I don't have tons of practice on auctions starting that way, but if I were to reach slam that would be how. Probably I wouldn't.

[Codo]

Jlall, on Mar 1 2007, 01:28 AM, said:

Scoring: IMP

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I would bid it the following way:

2 ♣ 2 ♦
3 ♠ 3 NT
all pass

(2 Club /3 Spade shows a semiforcing with long diamonds and 4 Spades, yes it should be 6+/4 but is the smallest lie)
(2 Diamond was a game forcing relay 3 NT to play opposite a semiforcing and a clear misfit.)

Good luck to all bidders who reached 6 Spade in a 4-3 fit without knowing that pd has the magical points: Queen of Spade, ace of Heart and queen of clubs. I believe that they will reach many bad slams if they bid at the table the same way they do in the forum.

And my respect to the few bidders who relayed out all working cards in souths hand. I hope I won´t meet you at the table.

[Apollo81]

jdonn, on Mar 1 2007, 02:57 AM, said:

The double dummy - ness of most people answering (excluding relayers I guess) is astounding. Yes I'm sure 80% of bridge players will just barrel into slam with 31 high and no fit. Even some of the relay auctions give me doubts, as Echo's post shows. I would bid

2♣ 2♥ (shows about 7+ with no suit worth bidding)
3♦ 3♥
3♠ 3NT
4♣

for sure. Now responder is sort of on the cusp since his cards are useful but there is no fit at all and he has a minimum with a singleton diamond. He could bid either 4♠ which opener would pass, or 5NT to pick a slam, opener would bid 6♦ (I don't think he should suggest clubs again since he could have still had four), and responder would land it in 6♠. It's impossible to say fairly what would really happen since I already know the hands and I don't have tons of practice on auctions starting that way, but if I were to reach slam that would be how. Probably I wouldn't.

The 2♥ bid makes it a lot harder to find slam here since, at the point where opener bids 3♠, responder does not have much extra.

I think that if the auction were to begin 2♣-2♦-3♦-3♥-3♠, and 2♦ is waiting, then 3NT is a terrible bid.

I think 2♣-2♦-3♦ should show extra values if you are playing that a 0-count can respond 2♦.

[Fluffy]

I don't open 2♣ with 2 suiters so.....

ps-1♦
1♥-2♠
2NT*-3♣
3♥**-6NT***

2NT* relay, pattern out please
3♥** imposible fit, so it is asking again


6NT*** correct answer should be 4NT (or maybe 5?), but I wouldn't bid a non forcing bid below 6 with such hand.

[mike777]

Jlall, on Mar 1 2007, 10:00 AM, said:

our auction in real life:

pass 1C(strong)
1H(GF) 2D
2N 3S
3N 5N(pick a slam)
6S pass

At the other table they found 6D. Diamonds were 6-3 but neither black suit worked so it was -1.

Keep in mind at the other table, west, Judy Bramley opened 1H, making for a much different auction. Very interesting hand ty for posting.