[HeartA]

Jlall, on Feb 27 2007, 11:05 AM, said:

I would transfer

ditto.

[jillybean]

Scoring: IMP

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West North East South

 -     -     -     Pass
 Pass  Pass  2NT   Pass
 3♥    Dbl   3♠    Pass
 Pass  Pass  

H8 H2 HA H5
D7 DA D6 D3
SK SA S6 S2
D5 D9 D2 DK
SJ SQ S7 S3
D8 C2 S4 D4
C3 C4 CA CT
H3


After the hand my partner left after making a not so pleasant comment about going to the 3 level with 2 points
Ruffing the ♦ looks like a good move here.

[Walddk]

Instead of complaining your (ex)partner should have concentrated on making the contract RHO gave him at trick 1. When North won ♥A, it was over for the defence. If he ducks, 3♠ is 1 down.

No matter what, East had no reason at all to blame you. Your bid was fine, his declarer play was less than perfect.

Roland

[mhais]

transfer to 3s

[P_Marlowe]

Transfer, the given hand is one reason,
why it makes sense to play transfer.

You dont even mind, if partner breaks
the transfer.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[Edmunte1]

My partner opened 2NT (20-22), and i passed. When the full holding proved to be

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my partner left telling me if i ever heard about transfers. Of course 2NT went down one when hearts proved to be 5-3.
It's easy to make comments on particular cases. The important think is what's happening in most of the cases, and my opinion is you should transfer. Sometimes 3♠ will make and 2NT no, and sometimes, when partner has good fit and good controls 4♠ will make. So just passing 2NT is usually worse than transfering. And you should be content with that. Sometimes some methods work, other times not, important is the frequency of success.

[P_Marlowe]

jillybean2, on Feb 28 2007, 01:26 AM, said:

Scoring: IMP

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West North East South

 -     -     -     Pass
 Pass  Pass  2NT   Pass
 3♥    Dbl   3♠    Pass
 Pass  Pass  

H8 H2 HA H5
D7 DA D6 D3
SK SA S6 S2
D5 D9 D2 DK
SJ SQ S7 S3
D8 C2 S4 D4
C3 C4 CA CT
H3


After the hand my partner left after making a not so pleasant comment about going to the 3 level with 2 points
Ruffing the ♦ looks like a good move here.

..., simply ignore the comment.
By the way, 2NT go down -1 as well,
one looses 2 Spades, 2Hearts, 2 Clubs
one diamond? (I not 100% sure, I am not
good in this kind of analysis)
how much did 3S go down?
Is there a fdifference?

With kind regards
Marlowe

[bid_em_up]

P_Marlowe, on Feb 28 2007, 06:57 AM, said:

By the way, 2NT go down -1 as well,
one looses 2 Spades, 2Hearts, 2 Clubs
one diamond? (I not 100% sure, I am not
good in this kind of analysis)
how much did 3S go down?
Is there a fdifference?

With kind regards
Marlowe

It's highly unlikely that 2N will go -1.

East will be able to take 8 tricks before N/S can gather all the tricks you are claiming they can get. (N/S will not be able to take 2 heart tricks). Its relatively easy for East to score 5 diamonds, 1 spade, 1 heart, and 1 club, for 8, with potential for 9 in both clubs and hearts.

[bid_em_up]

jillybean2, on Feb 28 2007, 01:26 AM, said:

After the hand my partner left after making a not so pleasant comment about going to the 3 level with 2 points
Ruffing the ♦ looks like a good move here.

Well, as you can see, players much better than the one that was sitting across from you (I refuse to call them, "your partner") agree that it is best to transfer out of 2N on this holding. 3S may make, it may go down, but it rates to certainly be an improvement over 2N. The hand has almost zero trick taking potential in 2N. It rates to take at least 3 tricks in spades (and possibly more).

As noted, your illustrious partner should have made 3S after the defense erred at trick 1.

Some good rules of thumb to remember:

Anybody who misplays this badly and then attempts to provide bidding lessons can kiss my @#$.

Anyone who leaves in a huff is frequently attempting to escape before you realize or criticize their errors.

New partners currently are a dime a dozen. Next week, they may even be on sale.
Good ones, however, may cost extra.

The eject button never loses an arguement. Neither does the enemy button.

[1eyedjack]

Edmunte1, on Feb 28 2007, 12:55 PM, said:

My partner opened 2NT (20-22), and i passed. When the full holding proved to be

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my partner left telling me if i ever heard about transfers. Of course 2NT went down one when hearts proved to be 5-3.
It's easy to make comments on particular cases. The important think is what's happening in most of the cases, and my opinion is you should transfer. Sometimes 3♠ will make and 2NT no, and sometimes, when partner has good fit and good controls 4♠ will make. So just passing 2NT is usually worse than transfering. And you should be content with that. Sometimes some methods work, other times not, important is the frequency of success.

I don't understand how 2NT failed. Even on a Heart lead at trick 1 and 5-3 Heart break they just take 4 Heart tricks and the Ace of Clubs. Total 5 tricks. You take 3 Club tricks, 2 Diamond tricks, 1 Heart trick and 2 Spade tricks. Total 8.

If Hearts were 6-2 and they find the Heart lead and the Ace of Clubs is with the long Hearts, then you go down, and I rate it unlucky. But then a bad Spade break may scupper you in 3S, perhaps.

Not that I am saying that it is right to pass 2N, nor that this hand is proof one way or the other.