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Bidding goes 4 H - 5 CL( by pd ) 5 H- ?
What do you bid?
Mike ;D
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Posted 2003-December-27, 11:14
“If there is dissatisfaction with the status quo, good. If there is ferment,
so much the better. If there is restlessness, I am pleased. Then let there
be ideas, and hard thought, and hard work.”
so much the better. If there is restlessness, I am pleased. Then let there
be ideas, and hard thought, and hard work.”
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Posted 2003-December-28, 09:57
6C. If partner can bid 5C on his own, vulnerable, with my hand I'll make it 6!
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Posted 2003-December-28, 11:41
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6C. If partner can bid 5C on his own, vulnerable, with my hand I'll make it 6!
Hmm, r hand looks very good to me, especially with r H void and almost solid spades and r D ace. Unless r used to playing with insane pd's I think 7 is a very good option. Since there is no way to find out actually exactly what pd has, maybe this is where judgement comes in handy
Mike ;D
“If there is dissatisfaction with the status quo, good. If there is ferment,
so much the better. If there is restlessness, I am pleased. Then let there
be ideas, and hard thought, and hard work.”
so much the better. If there is restlessness, I am pleased. Then let there
be ideas, and hard thought, and hard work.”
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Posted 2003-December-28, 12:51
Would be good to know if pass is forcing here.
I think it is and I think it is probably also the correct call.
Clearly discussion is needed about the meanings of direct and delayed (e.g. after a reopening double by partner) 5S, 5NT and 6C calls.
Just bidding the grand, however, might very well be the only way to get there sensibly, it has the merit of not giving any clues to opponents as to which potential ace they have to cash if we end up in 7C missing one ace.
Another interesting point is that we might want to bid 7S over 7H. After an initial 5C we might just manage this if advancer passes (forcing) and overcaller chooses to bid 5S over 5H directly (which I will raise to 7S immediately).
Best wishes all,
Ian
PS What are peoples feelings about leading against auctions such as 4H - 5C - 5H - 7C... What should double by opener ask for? How about the lead of the higher of the two unbid suits?
I think it is and I think it is probably also the correct call.
Clearly discussion is needed about the meanings of direct and delayed (e.g. after a reopening double by partner) 5S, 5NT and 6C calls.
Just bidding the grand, however, might very well be the only way to get there sensibly, it has the merit of not giving any clues to opponents as to which potential ace they have to cash if we end up in 7C missing one ace.
Another interesting point is that we might want to bid 7S over 7H. After an initial 5C we might just manage this if advancer passes (forcing) and overcaller chooses to bid 5S over 5H directly (which I will raise to 7S immediately).
Best wishes all,
Ian
PS What are peoples feelings about leading against auctions such as 4H - 5C - 5H - 7C... What should double by opener ask for? How about the lead of the higher of the two unbid suits?
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Posted 2003-December-28, 16:42
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... Unless r used to playing with insane pd's ...
Guess what...
Free
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Posted 2003-December-29, 11:08
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... Unless r used to playing with insane pd's ...
Guess what...
Free
Y said it , not me :-X
Mike ;D
“If there is dissatisfaction with the status quo, good. If there is ferment,
so much the better. If there is restlessness, I am pleased. Then let there
be ideas, and hard thought, and hard work.”
so much the better. If there is restlessness, I am pleased. Then let there
be ideas, and hard thought, and hard work.”
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Posted 2003-December-29, 16:21
I like the forcing pass. If partner doubles you settle for six, if he bids, you bid the grand. I'm also not averse to 7C direct. They will be guessing whether or not to sacrifice, and if they defend, they'll be guessing the opening lead. So many chances for them to go wrong.
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Posted 2004-January-08, 07:54
6 clubs
foole me once, shame one you!!
foole me twice, shame on me....!!
foole me twice, shame on me....!!
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Posted 2004-January-15, 16:27
5N, if pard picks clubs i'll pass if he bids a side suit i will bid 7...wont risk a forcing pass because i see no reason for pass to be forcing (even vul against not)
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