[Apollo81]

MPs, fav, 3rd

10765
85
K
AQ10764

2h-(p)-p-(X)
p-(3n)-all pass

lead?

[hrothgar]

Apollo81, on Feb 16 2007, 08:41 PM, said:

MPs, fav, 3rd

10765
85
K
AQ10764

2h-(p)-p-(X)
p-(3n)-all pass

lead?

7 of Clubs...

I'm being pedestrian for a change

[mikeh]

♣7

I'm being pedestrian as usual

[awm]

Agree with 4th best club. If I had the ♣9 I would try the ♣Q lead, but without it the 4th best is normal. Of course there can also be hands where a heart lead is best.

[temp3600]

♣7. I need to hit the round suit where they only have one stopper, and I think it is more likely to be clubs.

[pclayton]

♣7.

Joining Mike and Eagles in the crosswalk

[whereagles]

eagles-me? I didn't vote yet

[Foxx]

Is this a partnership I'm interested in maintaining? I think the ♥8 is the pedestrian lead.

[Double !]

I couldn't help it, pard.

I meant to lead your suit but the queen of clubs just sorta jumped out of my hand and onto the table before I could stop it. Sorry, P.

DHL

[xx1943]

This is a pure guess, if you know nothing about partner and/or opponents.
Just toss a coin between ♥8 and ♣7.

If you know partner opens very disciplined weak 2s only, you must lead a ♥.

If partner uses to open in M. Bergens style, lead ♣7. After all partner can double the final contract with: Ax, KQJ10xx, xx, xxx

This is a very important argument by Foxx:
Is this a partnership I'm interested in maintaining? I think the ♥8 is the pedestrian lead.

I like best to make the decision about what to lead in the post-mortem after I've seen all hands.

Al

[pclayton]

Foxx, on Feb 16 2007, 08:25 PM, said:

Is this a partnership I'm interested in maintaining?  I think the ♥8 is the pedestrian lead.

If this is a partnership you want to maintain, you'll both need to learn to tolerate using judgement, and how to deal with the fallout if it works out wrong.

Both of my regular pards would understand a club lead.

Frankly, if you think a club lead is right, you are insulting your partner's intelligence if you don't make the lead.

[Double !]

pclayton, on Feb 17 2007, 03:02 PM, said:

Frankly, if you think a club lead is right, you are insulting your partner's intelligence if you don't make the lead.

But, which club to lead.
If you select a club lead, you are probably hoping that partner has at least two of them. Then the question seems to be which opp is more likely to hold the king as well as to hold 3+ clubs (If one opp holds 4 clubs, the da club lead ain't gonna work because of insufficient internal solidity unless the 8, 9, and jack all fall early on.)

I don't know if this is common practice but, IMO, partner had a chance to make a lead-directing redouble when lho re-opened, yet elected not to do so- a possible negative inference? That, plus the hypothesis that lho might be more likely to hold the king, contributed to my having the C-Q accidentally on purposely fall out of my hand and onto the table. Sounds like rho is quite ready for a heart lead, even if rho stretched to bid 3NT because of the vulnerability. I'm probably wrong again. What else is new?

Have a good one.
DHL

[mikeh]

Double !, on Feb 17 2007, 03:43 PM, said:

I don't know if this is common practice but, IMO, partner had a chance to make a lead-directing redouble when lho re-opened, yet elected not to do so- a possible negative inference? 

I actually had a partner redouble once: a casual Saturday nite team game where we cut for teams. I could have saved a few imps by raising to 3♥... that would go 800 as opposed to the 1000 we went for. He caught me with a 4=1=4=4 bad hand, with some nice J10/J9 combos... so they couldn't make slam. And he had a great weak 2 bid.

Show me a weak 2 opener that can afford to redouble, and I'll show you someone who has just found 2 Aces and an extra trump.

You can have all the adverse inferences you want from the failure to redouble: I'll just assume he had a weak 2 bid.

[Apollo81]

Foxx, on Feb 17 2007, 12:25 AM, said:

Is this a partnership I'm interested in maintaining?  I think the ♥8 is the pedestrian lead.

My partner never leads my suit when I preempt, and he's pretty much always right.

[Apollo81]

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[brianshark]

I'd have led a young ♣. Looks like the Q is the winner, unless dec drops the stiff ♦K.

[Double !]

brianshark, on Feb 19 2007, 08:14 AM, said:

I'd have led a young ♣. Looks like the Q is the winner, unless dec drops the stiff ♦K.

I chose the queen of clubs and thought that it looked good when the full hand was disclosed. Then I asked myself what should I lead at trick 2 when declarer ducked the queen lead that won't advertise to declarer that I also have the king of diamonds? Is it a given that I am ahead in the race and, because it's matchpoints, declarer will have no choice other than to take the losing diamond finesse even if I clear the clubs suit? Or, will clearing the club suit make it obvious that I also hold the diamond king.

At imps, no way would declarer take the diamond hook if I continue to lead clubs if declarer knew that the clubs were distributed 6-2.

BTW, if declarer plays the club king at trick 1, then declarer is in serious trouble unless wearing a pair of Luis' sunglasses. (gotta get me a pair of dem sunglasses.)

Interesting hand
DHL

[Double !]

Jlall, on Feb 19 2007, 02:44 PM, said:

Don, just continue a low club at trick 2. Declarer will have no way of knowing that clubs are 6-2 and will just take the finesse. Of course if you play ace and a club you will give the show away.

Justin
forgive me but
my P doesn't know that I don't have the club Jack, and
many people play that the lead of queen asks for unblock, or else count.
So, it's at least possible that an astute declarer might work out the club situation given those parameters with a low club at trick 2?
Yes? No?

Thanks,
DHL