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limit raise or not?

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Posted 2007-February-13, 11:45

mike777, on Feb 11 2007, 10:01 PM, said:

ok why is this 9 ltc hand, 4333 shape with no heart honours a 3 card limit raise?

Even the few loser-trick-counting-experts that I know like aces and kings. Why don't you step down from your loser-trick-count for a second and try to evaluate hands? You won't get better at it by adding the same numbers every time.
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Posted 2007-February-14, 13:54

mike777, on Feb 11 2007, 10:01 PM, said:

ok why is this 9 ltc hand, 4333 shape with no heart honours a 3 card limit raise?

Hi,

having a bal. hand, one should try to
count cover cards, for bal. hands this
works better.

You have 3 cover cards, except in the case that
partner has a single opposite one of your kings.

A standard opener has 7 looser, you cover 3,
this means you should have play for the 3 level.

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Posted 2007-February-14, 18:46

The usual way, playing 2/1 or 1NT forcing (or semiforcing-yuck) to bid this hand is to respond 1NT followed by 3H to show invitational values and 3-card support. AND, IMO, this is one of the worst features of the forcing NT structure.

I 100% agree that there needs to be a drury-like way to show this type of holding by an UPH. Some are playing that 2C responses can include hands like this as well as balanced hands and hands with club suits. This seems to be the way to go. I just would like more info on opener's rebid structure. But, I don't see any reason to not just rebid a la reverse drury.

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