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Posted 2007-February-06, 19:58

The auction (we unfavorable, RHO dealer):
1♥ - 1♠ - 2♦ - 3♥?
4♦ - pass - pass - 5♣??
pass - ...

- What is 3♥ in your opinion?
- What is 5♣?
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Posted 2007-February-06, 20:07

Free, on Feb 6 2007, 07:58 PM, said:

The auction (we unfavorable, RHO dealer):
1♥ - 1♠ - 2♦ - 3♥?
4♦ - pass - pass - 5♣??
pass - ...

- What is 3♥ in your opinion?
- What is 5♣?

3♥ is a mixed raise. 5♣ does not exist...
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Posted 2007-February-06, 20:09

Splinter in support of spades maybe, but then 5C is ????

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Posted 2007-February-06, 21:10

If you have not agreed to 2NT and 3♥ on these auctions as raises (offensive 2NT, mixed 3♥, then jump to 3♥ asked for 3NT with a ♥ stopper, 5♣ is final contract with running clubs. Next.
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Posted 2007-February-07, 01:41

-3H is a splinter in support of hearts
-5C no idea, but i would take
it as a suit, no idea, why your partner
did not bid 4C instead of 3H

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Posted 2007-February-07, 01:52

What Ben said.
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Posted 2007-February-07, 09:59

without agreement it seems a little crazy, but I would take:
3H = I have a solid running minor and a heart stop. If you can stop diam, we have 3N(with opps bidding 2 suits, you bid the stop you have rather then the stop you need)
5C = Well, I still have my long minor
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Posted 2007-February-07, 12:42

3♥ 4 card spade limit raise or better-
5♣ Difficult to believe but I suppose in theory a slam try showing Ace clubs, denying ability to cue spades, and denying an initial ability to splinter
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Posted 2007-February-07, 12:45

Wackojack, on Feb 7 2007, 01:42 PM, said:

3♥ 4 card spade limit raise or better-
5♣ Difficult to believe but I suppose in theory a slam try showing Ace clubs, denying ability to cue spades, and denying an initial ability to splinter

Couldn't he bid 2♥ instead of jumping to 3♥ with this hand with spade support?
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Posted 2007-February-07, 13:27

Looks like the 5♣ bidder has a strong hand and his opps are fooling around. I'd take this as clubs.
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Posted 2007-February-07, 13:54

"Couldn't he bid 2♥ instead of jumping to 3♥ with this hand with spade support?"

Yes, which is why I think it should be a splinter.

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Posted 2007-February-07, 14:36

Free, on Feb 6 2007, 08:58 PM, said:

The auction (we unfavorable, RHO dealer):
1♥ - 1♠ - 2♦ - 3♥?
4♦ - pass - pass - 5♣??
pass - ...

- What is 3♥ in your opinion?
- What is 5♣?

Pardon my strange ideas...

3♥ is natural, either trying to get to 3NT if you have a diamond stopper or to 4♥ if the 1♥ bid was a psyche.

5♣ is natural and to play.

♠ x
♥ AKTx
♦ 72
♣ AKQJxx

After the first three bids, somebody is psyching. Partner is figuring that it isn't you.
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Posted 2007-February-07, 15:44

i want to beat partner with a pitchfork.
Seems to me that 3h is a stopper ask with running clubs.
I expect p not to have heart support as s/he has boldly bypassed
4h on the way to 5c.

It is also possible that p is showing a heart stopper and asking for a
diamond... after all -- opps have bid two suits.
I think it best not to pull out this sort of ape-s$#t in a pickup.

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Posted 2007-February-08, 13:16

inquiry, on Feb 7 2007, 01:45 PM, said:

Wackojack, on Feb 7 2007, 01:42 PM, said:

3♥  4 card spade limit raise or better-
5♣  Difficult to believe but I suppose in theory a slam try showing Ace clubs, denying ability to cue spades, and denying an initial ability to splinter

Couldn't he bid 2♥ instead of jumping to 3♥ with this hand with spade support?

Without the diamond response, I would take 3♥ as a Rosler cue bid and 2♥ as normally a limit raise or better with 3-card spade support. I don't think the 2♦ response to opener affects the meaning of advancer's bid. If you do not have this understanding, then you have to guess what it means.
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