When the ice has gone
#1
Posted 2007-January-22, 10:25
What the hell are we going to put in our drinks to cool us down
#2
Posted 2007-January-22, 10:50
#3
Posted 2007-January-22, 17:11
Raise the temperature and the gulf stream shuts down which decreases temps in the arctic which allows ice to accumulate which increases albedo which reduces temperatures. Today there was an article by a "mainstream" global warming proponent who was warning his peers that they were overstating their case and thereby diminishing their reputations and influence.
#4
Posted 2007-January-22, 17:36
#5
Posted 2007-January-22, 18:04
Winstonm, on Jan 22 2007, 06:36 PM, said:
One of the all time worst movies ever....really really bad...
#6
Posted 2007-January-22, 18:47
mike777, on Jan 22 2007, 07:04 PM, said:
Winstonm, on Jan 22 2007, 06:36 PM, said:
One of the all time worst movies ever....really really bad...
I know. But the book wasn't all that bad.
#7
Posted 2007-January-23, 07:25
DrTodd13, on Jan 22 2007, 06:11 PM, said:
Raise the temperature and the gulf stream shuts down which decreases temps in the arctic which allows ice to accumulate which increases albedo which reduces temperatures. Today there was an article by a "mainstream" global warming proponent who was warning his peers that they were overstating their case and thereby diminishing their reputations and influence.
Mass extinctions coincide with all of these "spikes" in the atmospheric CO2 levels. Regardless of the source (volcanism, algae blooms etc) the net effect is the same. H2S is the net result and death for land animal occurs. Last time I looked, that included us.
#10
Posted 2007-January-23, 12:25
Al_U_Card, on Jan 23 2007, 05:25 AM, said:
DrTodd13, on Jan 22 2007, 06:11 PM, said:
Raise the temperature and the gulf stream shuts down which decreases temps in the arctic which allows ice to accumulate which increases albedo which reduces temperatures. Today there was an article by a "mainstream" global warming proponent who was warning his peers that they were overstating their case and thereby diminishing their reputations and influence.
Mass extinctions coincide with all of these "spikes" in the atmospheric CO2 levels. Regardless of the source (volcanism, algae blooms etc) the net effect is the same. H2S is the net result and death for land animal occurs. Last time I looked, that included us.
The point of the data I was showing is that on geologic timescales, CO2 has never been so low as it is now. From 100 million years ago back to 600 million years ago, CO2 has never been lower than 1000 ppm. It appears there has been a roughly linear decrease in CO2 from 6000 ppm 600 million years ago down to what it is today. Sure, the graph is not smooth, there are spikes and dips but your point seems to be that nothing can exist with CO2 this high due to something happening in the oceans and the data does not seem to bear this out. If your statement were true then there wouldn't be any animal life today because we've had consistently and much higher CO2 levels in the past.
#11
Posted 2007-January-23, 14:01
#12
Posted 2007-January-23, 19:57
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Naw, Bush and Cheney already got the copyright on that one.
#13
Posted 2007-January-24, 12:28
#14
Posted 2007-January-24, 12:33
Save the planet without killing off the economy.
Failure to succumb to scare tactics of right wing hacks, who have consistently predicted economic disaster from environmental regulation, and who have been consistently been proven wrong.
Peter
#15
Posted 2007-January-24, 15:36
Even some right wing hacks vote for not killing off the grandkids.
#16
Posted 2007-January-24, 15:40
Very few in Congress (or the White House) feel (vote) this way.
Why do you presume that environmental regulation will kill off the economy,
when history shows it doesn't?
You're not too specific
Peter
#17
Posted 2007-January-24, 15:53
#18
Posted 2007-January-24, 16:01
Whose definition?
This is "drink the Kool Aid" stuff.
Again, not too specific.
We've had environmental regulations for a long time, and they haven't hurt.
BTW, the economy performs better under Democratic presidents than
under Republicans. You can look it up
Peter
#19
Posted 2007-January-24, 23:59
If by "the economy" you mean diverting cash from sensible and best for the majority endeavors to enriching a few avaricious and unscrupulous individuals.....then regulations seem to be the wrong way to go......their "drive" runs right over most of us (with the usual results).
#20
Posted 2007-January-25, 08:03
mike777, on Jan 24 2007, 04:53 PM, said:
The real power of government is the right to strip personal freedoms - as in put you in jail for not paying taxes.